Msg ID:
2748624 |
AMC Check Airmen officially UNION!!! (NT) +2/-3
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Author:NMB releases officially count
11/2/2022 8:50:31 AM
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Msg ID:
2748627 |
Let the hangover begin! (NT) +1/-4
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Author:Anonymous
11/2/2022 9:11:48 AM
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Msg ID:
2748653 |
AMC Check Airmen officially UNION!!! +2/-4
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Author:congrats...
11/2/2022 2:49:03 PM
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now you can pay dues to get raises whenever GMR gives raises. |
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Msg ID:
2748659 |
Says the fee payer who cried about not getting member benefits (NT) +2/-1
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Author:Welcome to the team
11/2/2022 4:50:37 PM
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Msg ID:
2748666 |
Says the fee payer who cried about not getting member benefits +0/-3
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Author:Says the unionite
11/2/2022 7:30:27 PM
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thats glad to have a few more in the crowd of fools. |
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Msg ID:
2748757 |
Maybe he cried about it because you forced him to pay for it (NT) +0/-1
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Author:pay for it, then didn't give it to him
11/3/2022 10:14:14 PM
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Msg ID:
2748718 |
AMC Check Airmen officially UNION!!! +0/-2
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Author:Oh My
11/3/2022 2:57:13 PM
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Exactly!
The pilots will pay dues to and be supposedly represented by fellow pilots with already inflated egos. Pilots that now will be given an official soapbox. Once again, it's Management vs. Pilots. The climate there must suck.
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Msg ID:
2748673 |
AMC Check Airmen officially UNION!!! (NT) +2/-2
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Author:officially, who gives a damn!!
11/2/2022 8:39:50 PM
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Msg ID:
2748678 |
AMC Check Airmen officially UNION!!! +1/-1
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Author:Really
11/2/2022 9:58:23 PM
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says the revolt from the field continues. Slooooow but sure.
Tough business. |
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Msg ID:
2748717 |
AMC Check Airmen officially UNION!!! +0/-1
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Author:the more members the better
11/3/2022 2:49:38 PM
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so as a member, I most certainly give a damn. |
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Msg ID:
2748695 |
AMC Union Donkeys +2/-8
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Author:A Rant and Rave Dude
11/3/2022 10:09:38 AM
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Now the pilots have to pay union dues...and for what exacly? Efforts to retain pilots is nothing new. The union make recommendations, that operators are already aware of and consider despite the union. Typically, the union will claim any positive change victory that was initiated by them. The "what can we do to retain pilots and mechanics" are central questions brought up at most head-shed meetings. Pay, housing, schedules, vacations, 401ks etc., are all discussed, proposed, and implemented without any input from the union. These are not new industry issues. Losing pilots and their aeronautical experience is expensive for all operators. Losing pilots and mechanics costs a company much more than monitarliy. The experienced pilots and mechanics walking out the door have a significant intrinsic value that impacts safety, culture, aeronautical experience, customer satisfaction. All retention ideas are important, discussed, and if able, implemented..Unfortunately the common credo for unions, and I witnessed this first-hand as the L-##8's reps did this very thing, is to jump onto the tail-end touting "look what we did for our dudes!" A negative side to this beahvior is that it weakens the culture. Management vs. Pilots syndrome. Lose-lose. I look forward to reading the comments |
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Msg ID:
2748719 |
AMC Union Donkeys +1/-1
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Author:uh
11/3/2022 2:57:41 PM
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if you worked for PHI, you would know that 108 represents all PHI pilots, not just oil and gas. I'd be interested to know what "pilot lounge" you were in. If you're going to add details to lend credibility, it helps to get them right. |
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Msg ID:
2748726 |
AMC Union Donkeys +1/-1
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Author:interesting
11/3/2022 3:30:30 PM
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the moderators deleted the last paragraph where he talks about the lack of education and the political affiliation (which he cmade up) of 108's leadership. too bad, as that's the part that outed him as a fraud. |
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Msg ID:
2748720 |
Above guys rant has zero to do with 109 or AMC and he’s just a little sad (NT) +2/-2
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Author:In life and it’s outcome for him
11/3/2022 3:04:36 PM
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Msg ID:
2748724 |
Above guys rant has zero to do with 109 or AMC and he’s just a little sad +3/-1
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Author:I know right
11/3/2022 3:11:45 PM
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he's talking about a completely different company where he also, quite clearly, is not employed at. |
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Msg ID:
2748727 |
How Did 109 help withBristow? +1/-2
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Author:Useless
11/3/2022 3:37:10 PM
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Awesome. Will you show the forum how, exactly, 109 helped their represented pilots from soup-to-nuts?
I know several Bristow pilots that can shed some light on how well they were represented during the Era merge. Sad that the union takes pilot pay and gives nothing in return. In my little experience, union Stewards, reps and the like are typically disgruntled pilots with overly inflated egos that were given a platform. Most of them remind me of the kids who needed the participation trophy to placate them. All expensive talk.
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Msg ID:
2748728 |
How Did 109 help withBristow? +0/-2
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Author:Useless
11/3/2022 3:37:11 PM
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Awesome. Will you show the forum how, exactly, 109 helped their represented pilots from soup-to-nuts?
I know several Bristow pilots that can shed some light on how well they were represented during the Era merge. Sad that the union takes pilot pay and gives nothing in return. In my little experience, union Stewards, reps and the like are typically disgruntled pilots with overly inflated egos that were given a platform. Most of them remind me of the kids who needed the participation trophy to placate them. All expensive talk.
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Msg ID:
2748729 |
How Did 109 help withBristow? +0/-2
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Author:Useless
11/3/2022 3:37:11 PM
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Awesome. Will you show the forum how, exactly, 109 helped their represented pilots from soup-to-nuts?
I know several Bristow pilots that can shed some light on how well they were represented during the Era merge. Sad that the union takes pilot pay and gives nothing in return. In my little experience, union Stewards, reps and the like are typically disgruntled pilots with overly inflated egos that were given a platform. Most of them remind me of the kids who needed the participation trophy to placate them. All expensive talk.
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Msg ID:
2748732 |
It is OPEIU but, you mean 107 (NT) +0/-1
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Author:Wrong again dude
11/3/2022 3:42:37 PM
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Msg ID:
2748730 |
How Did 109 help withBristow? +0/-1
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Author:Useless
11/3/2022 3:37:11 PM
Reply to: 2748720
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Awesome. Will you show the forum how, exactly, 109 helped their represented pilots from soup-to-nuts?
I know several Bristow pilots that can shed some light on how well they were represented during the Era merge. Sad that the union takes pilot pay and gives nothing in return. In my little experience, union Stewards, reps and the like are typically disgruntled pilots with overly inflated egos that were given a platform. Most of them remind me of the kids who needed the participation trophy to placate them. All expensive talk.
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Msg ID:
2748731 |
How Did 109 help withBristow? (NT) +0/-0
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Author:You mean 107
11/3/2022 3:41:35 PM
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Msg ID:
2748745 |
109 is AMC not Bristow or PHI. We are happy with the 109 and apparently (NT) +1/-1
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Author:So are the check airmen!
11/3/2022 6:18:27 PM
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Msg ID:
2748752 |
why are they happy with the 109? they voted for OPEIU +0/-3
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Author:they should have their own local id!
11/3/2022 7:24:27 PM
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especially since they are a unique Class and Craft unrelated to Local 109 Pilots (and sometimes in conflict with them too, administratively) |
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Msg ID:
2748770 |
Because 109 is doing it right! Putting members before union profits +3/-1
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Author:109 is The example of how to be
11/4/2022 9:18:22 AM
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They put workers before big business and politics.
treat members with respect and as professional.
represent and fight for the good workers and hold those that give us a bad name accountable
and responsible for their actions and broke the mold on typical unions who only defend the
troublemakers and lazy. They provide a ton of benefits for members and their families
and even gave us our dues back for year when the company refused to give us a raise.
I for one and very happy with the 109 and obviously the check airmen seen something they liked and
want to be a part of it! I say welcome to OPEIU and I hope they get rolled into yhe 109. It would be great to
have bidding rights and protections that work between the line and training department. A lot of great
instructors refuse to go to training because of what they would lose. I hope thats the first fix because the
company is missing out on great people
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Msg ID:
2748779 |
Union is making profits?? Sounds unethical! +0/-3
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Author:109 is a line pilot representation, not
11/4/2022 10:42:53 AM
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They take money from every pilot, and push it back only to members in the form of "benefits". Really, it's stealing from non-members to put money into members pockets! |
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Msg ID:
2748783 |
Same whiner wanting FREE member benefits for not being a member (NT) +2/-1
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Author:Socialist swine
11/4/2022 11:33:32 AM
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Msg ID:
2748792 |
How is it "free" when you are taking more from me than members? (NT) +1/-2
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Author:You must be a liberal!
11/4/2022 12:47:07 PM
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Msg ID:
2748823 |
It’s classified. Members only! (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Here’s a coin and a tissue
11/4/2022 7:22:36 PM
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Msg ID:
2749171 |
Yeah, I'll bet it is! (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
11/10/2022 8:00:24 AM
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Msg ID:
2748833 |
law requires I pay my fair share. how is a fair share MORE than (NT) +0/-2
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Author:a member's share?
11/5/2022 5:42:29 AM
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Msg ID:
2748835 |
Sharing is Caring….big hug (NT) +1/-2
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Author:Smooches
11/5/2022 8:24:30 AM
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Msg ID:
2748760 |
AMC Union Donkeys +0/-4
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Author:Man, union
11/3/2022 10:52:32 PM
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dudes sure do get upset when you point out their uselessness. Note the down votes on this thread when the union sham is pointed out. |
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Msg ID:
2748774 |
AMC Union Donkeys +1/-1
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Author:you didn't point out anything
11/4/2022 10:06:46 AM
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but yeah, rage. |
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Msg ID:
2748807 |
AMC Union Donkeys +0/-2
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Author:Not surprised you can’t comprehend
11/4/2022 3:17:47 PM
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simple writing. You are right where you belong, in a group that protects the underperforming. |
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Msg ID:
2748812 |
AMC Union Donkeys +3/-1
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Author:yeah, that could be it
11/4/2022 4:27:14 PM
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more likely what you said was complete garbage |
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Msg ID:
2748799 |
AMC Union Donkeys +0/-3
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Author:say wut
11/4/2022 2:16:02 PM
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so the big problem is the union taking credit for things they didn't directly have a say in and this makes the company mad at the pilots and you saw this first hand and I totally believe this because yeah this all makes perfect sense. lol |
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Msg ID:
2748700 |
Cool, now comes the 2+ years to negotiate a contract! (NT) +0/-1
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Author:Anonymous
11/3/2022 10:28:39 AM
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