Msg ID:
2747389 |
Fixed Wing +14/-5
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Author:Shooting Shark
10/20/2022 12:13:27 PM
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To my helicopter brethren,
AkA "Vertolot-chiks" (English phonetic spelling, in Russian )
Flying helicopters is one of the best flying experiences a young pilot can have. I made my bones in the Army, UH1s and later Blackhawks. As a civilian, Super Puma, variety of Bell products, BK117, even the MI-17, and a demo hour in an S-92 Nothing compares to a Sikorsky, but I digress.
Along the way I got a Fixed wing add on, ATP, CFI/ CFII. Now 15,000 hours about half and half FW/ RW. Someone on here (years ago) made the comment that a helicopter pilot was "overqualified" after logging 2500 hours. He was correct in some respects. The pay doesn't reflect experience in the helicopter industry. So if you can get a job flying helicopters, youre "qualified" the rest is overkill.
I used to follow this site religiously, but lost interest in flying helicopters for a living. These days I'm a 64 year old Check Airman for a major Part 135 Fixed Wing operation. Flying 700-800 hours a year. I really enjoy this job, but everytime I see a S-76C++ at Bridgeport (BDR) or landing in the Hamptons (HTO) , I wish I could climb outta my starched wing and do at least one more trip around the pattern before I retire.
Cant do it.
The pay cut would be high six figures. Not to mention the schedule and other benefits.
I'll admit, I'm still a in it "for the buck" which also comes at a price. The price is, putting on those "golden handcuffs" -- and making too much money to quit and maybe take the lower stress lower paying jobs.. Like flying a seasonal Caravan on floats ( fishing trips) in Alaska, perhaps.
Or "Earning money while sleeping " (EMS) in a quiet little VFR program somewhere.
The point is, happiness isn't defined strictly by money. If you like flying helicopters, and can afford it, do it.
Good luck to you guys, and
fly safe!
--Shooting Shark |
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Msg ID:
2747399 |
Fixed Wing +3/-13
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Author:what’s with the russian bro
10/20/2022 1:08:08 PM
Reply to: 2747389
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I think I know why: a little nod to the Russian terrorist you so admire. anyhoo, I don't see your 135 check airman gig paying much. even at a "major" one lol. your so called career is most likely a fantasy. it just doesn't smell right. |
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Msg ID:
2747400 |
Fixed Wing +1/-4
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Author:doesn’t most 135 jet training
10/20/2022 1:13:12 PM
Reply to: 2747399
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happen is a sim? but you are flying 800 hours a year doing it lol |
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Msg ID:
2747402 |
Fixed Wing +1/-7
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Author:say wut
10/20/2022 1:34:34 PM
Reply to: 2747400
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that is not the phonetic spelling, that's the translation to the English alphabet. it's nothing close to that. now, about the rest of your post as a check airman for a major 135 operation? lol |
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Msg ID:
2747430 |
Fixed Wing +4/-1
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Author:How can
10/20/2022 5:06:56 PM
Reply to: 2747402
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You possibly know so little? If you knew slightly less, you would starve and die from thirst with food and water right in front of you. Your few educated brain cells are devoted to putting food and water into your mouth. Don't hit your head. You are one blow to the head away from being a vegetable. |
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Msg ID:
2747429 |
Fixed Wing +3/-2
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Author:No stupid.
10/20/2022 5:03:29 PM
Reply to: 2747400
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You are ignorant in addition to your stupidity. Have you never heard of training captains, and line check airmen? Dry up and blow away, sis. |
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Msg ID:
2747428 |
Fixed Wing +5/-1
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Author:Every
10/20/2022 5:01:26 PM
Reply to: 2747399
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Time you open your mouth, pick up a pen, or trot out your iPad keyboard, you put your ignorance on blast, sis. You are such a weirdo. You must be a murse or female EMT. If you don't consider NetJets, Flexjet, xojet, and wheels up major 135 carriers, you are deaf dumb and blind in addition to your derangement from your mental issues. Everything he said is true, and if you can't believe it then too bad and so sad. Why don't you dry up and blow away? You would be doing everyone a favor, and no one would miss you in the least. It would be as if you never existed, but better. |
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Msg ID:
2747432 |
Fixed Wing +1/-1
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Author:Don't forget
10/20/2022 5:17:50 PM
Reply to: 2747428
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About EJM another Buffet owned great operator OF high $$$ FW's too!!!!!!!! Let these low life tards wallow in their own misery! They don't have a clue or knowledge/skill to move on/UP!! |
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Msg ID:
2747450 |
He's Real and I know him +3/-2
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Author:Developer--
10/20/2022 9:55:13 PM
Reply to: 2747399
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I'll chime in. Shark is real ... I know him ... And what he said is 100% spot on.
I'm in a very similar boat as him.
I flew EMS for almost a decade, and my favorite helicopter is the S76, and I fly a G650 for a living now. The money doesn't compare but I also miss flying medevac.
He had a very legitimate reason for flyin the Mi, so don't let your imagination get the best of you.
Be well |
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Msg ID:
2747751 |
what's the difference between +1/-1
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Author:a jet and a porcupine
10/24/2022 6:11:21 PM
Reply to: 2747450
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on a porcupine the p r i c k s are on the outside |
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Msg ID:
2747410 |
Civilian guy +8/-1
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Author:Happiness is where it is at
10/20/2022 2:23:28 PM
Reply to: 2747389
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Congrats to you SS, output is the result of input or so you have figured out. I'm very happy in EMS making $110k to be home every day. I get to ride my motorcycle, play golf and travel to the lake cabin every other week if so inclined. Wife works from laptop so we have alot of flexibility. 5 years to go and by them I should have 2 $Mil in the 401K. The helicopter world has been good to us. I have made it my highest priority to stay out of the hospital politics and am having a blast. |
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Msg ID:
2747413 |
Civilian guy +11/-3
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Author:Shooting Shark
10/20/2022 3:03:25 PM
Reply to: 2747410
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Agreed, my friend. I'm glad you had a great career flying helicopters!
it is about lifestyle -- I too ride and enjoy traveling with my wife. Grandkids will be a priority soon, when I retire and then have ALL my time.
As for the 135 FW naysayers, they have no clue. $200k is the new normal. Advertised salary is just a starting point, --add pay differentials for OT, retention bonuses, performance incentive pay etc.. It adds up.
As for those vaxxed Libs,
they're at home wearing their Covid masks. waiting for their latest booster shots, and more "guidance" from the CDC. If they don't end up in FAA medical limbo.
Covid vaxed are becoming infertile., too.
That means "bending the population cuve" for Gen Z, (one good side effect, I suppose.)
The New World Order and "Great Reset" will need fewer
Useful idiots |
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Msg ID:
2747417 |
Civilian guy +1/-3
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Author:as for those vaxxed libs
10/20/2022 3:42:07 PM
Reply to: 2747413
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nobody asked lol |
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Msg ID:
2747419 |
Civilian guy +0/-4
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Author:I’d just like to know why
10/20/2022 4:07:02 PM
Reply to: 2747417
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he's greeting people in russian. care to explain? |
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Msg ID:
2747422 |
Civilian guy +3/-1
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Author:Interesting
10/20/2022 4:36:08 PM
Reply to: 2747419
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Nearly 80 here, almost 50 years in aviation, ATP both FW and RW, lots of years overseas. My career in aviation was a blast, even the bad days were good. As to flight time 29 K. Money?, made a lot of that too. |
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Msg ID:
2747433 |
Fixed Wing +4/-0
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Author:24 years HEMS
10/20/2022 5:53:37 PM
Reply to: 2747389
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Good for you SS, and enjoy your retirement as I know your 401K is a lot better off than mine! |
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Msg ID:
2747452 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" (NT) +2/-3
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Author:...but still a good story!
10/20/2022 10:30:00 PM
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Msg ID:
2747477 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +1/-2
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Author:You Forgot To Engage Brain
10/21/2022 10:07:17 AM
Reply to: 2747452
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Before opening mouth. |
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Msg ID:
2747481 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +0/-4
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Author:nobody actually believes this
10/21/2022 10:12:37 AM
Reply to: 2747477
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shark guy is really a pilot. nobody except maybe the other pretend pilots like the weird guy® burrito bender. |
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Msg ID:
2747533 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +0/-2
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Author:There
10/21/2022 5:17:28 PM
Reply to: 2747481
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You go with your racism. You just can't control it, can you? |
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Msg ID:
2747535 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +2/-2
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Author:the burrito
10/21/2022 5:22:41 PM
Reply to: 2747533
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doesn't have a racist bone in it's body and inclusive to all. google it bro. |
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Msg ID:
2747485 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +0/-4
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Author:nobody actually believes this
10/21/2022 11:02:51 AM
Reply to: 2747477
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shark guy is really a pilot. he's about as prolific a right wing troll as you'll find. that's his whole existance. nobody buys it except maybe the other pretend pilots like the weird guy® burrito bender. it's all an internet fantasy. the guy vouching for him pretending he's a "developer" was perfect. he was also, of course, a former 76 pilot now flying a "G650". lol |
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Msg ID:
2747494 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +7/-1
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Author:And
10/21/2022 11:30:45 AM
Reply to: 2747485
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What's wrong with someone being right wing? You libs think that you can just have everything and are the only show in town? Some types of people have to exist to keep your kind from fKn' absolutley everything up you touch and or lay eyes on. |
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Msg ID:
2747499 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +0/-7
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Author:uh
10/21/2022 12:10:47 PM
Reply to: 2747494
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nobody said it was wrong, snowflake |
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Msg ID:
2747518 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +2/-1
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Author:You Did
10/21/2022 2:06:02 PM
Reply to: 2747499
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It was a direct, and derogatory implication, as you purposefully meant it. No need to act ignorant when you are ignorant. |
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Msg ID:
2747527 |
you forgot to start with "Once Upon A Time" +0/-1
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Author:poor snowflake
10/21/2022 3:59:51 PM
Reply to: 2747518
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welcome to the consequences of your actions bro |
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Msg ID:
2747459 |
Fixed Wing +5/-1
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Author:Did
10/21/2022 6:02:25 AM
Reply to: 2747389
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Earn Money Sleeping as a retirement gig for 10 years, VFR twin, sleepy little program, after 50+ years of flying all sorts of aircraft and jobs we hung it all up. Most fun was helicopter, best money corporate. |
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Msg ID:
2747603 |
Fixed Wing +2/-1
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Author:I never
10/22/2022 2:38:00 PM
Reply to: 2747389
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trust anyone who has to give me his, her, him, she 's resume prior to trying to make a point.... |
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Msg ID:
2747604 |
Fixed Wing +0/-2
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Author:uh
10/22/2022 3:19:48 PM
Reply to: 2747603
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exactly |
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Msg ID:
2747612 |
Fixed Wing +0/-2
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Author:Exactly wrong,
10/22/2022 3:44:45 PM
Reply to: 2747604
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Numbskull. |
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Msg ID:
2747642 |
Fixed Wing +1/-1
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Author:Anonymous
10/22/2022 9:31:22 PM
Reply to: 2747603
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just don't care. New generation of foolishness but whatever floats the boat. |
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Msg ID:
2747716 |
Fixed Wing +0/-1
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Author:Been there
10/24/2022 10:12:51 AM
Reply to: 2747389
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Very well said.
Stay well |
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Msg ID:
2747836 |
Fixed Wing +0/-1
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Author:Shooting Shart, code brown
10/25/2022 5:51:47 PM
Reply to: 2747716
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I sure wish I could fly the wonderful sikorsky again but it doesn't pay as much as my netjets simulator job so of course the moral of the story is money isn't everything lol |
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Msg ID:
2749092 |
Fixed Wing +0/-0
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Author:CrashMeTwice
11/8/2022 8:29:08 PM
Reply to: 2747389
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Sorry for the slight hijack!
Reading your post and because it is almost impossible on finding consistent resources on the Force Trim function as it seems every helicopter is a bit different as I get different answers in the forums or on the web. I would like to know on how it works from a piloting perspective in the Mi-8, Mi-24, Mi-17, or KA-50 models. I would appreciate if you or a real life pilot would find the time answering some of my below questions related to the force trim function.
Are the following statements correct:
(a) If I engage the Force Trim function the cyclic locks into that position and this is the new 0,0 position.
(b) I can still make corrections but the range is now limited and if I exceed that limit, Force Trim will disengage.
(c) If I move the cyclic from that new 0,0 position I will feel a "spring" load, returning the cyclic back to the locked position if I would let go of it.
If the range (b) is limited, by how much?
Thanks!
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