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Msg ID: 2747132 Regret staying in HAA +16/-4     
Author:3-5M in lost income
10/17/2022 8:13:50 AM
Much debate continues on the benefits of leaving helicopters for greener pastures. A recent post made me realize timing is everything. 20 years ago, jumping to airplanes was suicide. About half succeeded, as it was a real boys club. A number of peers simply stopped flying rather than come crawling back to offshore or EMS. Fast forward 20 years, now the debate has merit. If successful, you can double or triple your lifetime income by taking a chance. I'm telling everyone, ie the younger guys, go now while the demand is high. This wint last. There are a few exceptions. A number of pilots make north of 200k, by making good choices. Corp, VIP, Yachties, etc. My take is still this. If your hobbies are more important than income, do what it takes to pay the bills. Just know you will be still flying into your late 60s. If building a larger income is more important to secure a pain free retirement, the answer is quite clear.


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Msg ID: 2747134 Regret staying in HAA +1/-14     
Author:the post is mostly bs except for
10/17/2022 8:50:44 AM

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the part about there being more money in airplanes but you seem to be the last person on earth to have it finally dawn on you.



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Msg ID: 2747136 Regret staying in HAA +20/-3     
Author:He Is Giving Advice. Not Looking
10/17/2022 9:03:29 AM

Reply to: 2747134

For yours. And the advice he is giving might fall on deaf ears. Like yours.



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Msg ID: 2747137 Regret staying in HAA +0/-2     
Author:dark side
10/17/2022 9:22:03 AM

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Its hard when landing on scene calls and roof tops will be very missed going to the dark side



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Msg ID: 2747143 a helipad is a helipad regardless of what's (NT) +0/-6     
Author:around it...trees, buidings, whatever.
10/17/2022 11:06:51 AM

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Msg ID: 2747157 a helipad is a helipad regardless of what's +3/-3     
Author:said nobody that’s
10/17/2022 1:57:10 PM

Reply to: 2747143

flown a helicopter ever



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Msg ID: 2747147 Regret staying in HAA +0/-1     
Author:Thanks for the update
10/17/2022 11:29:41 AM

Reply to: 2747134
Tell me what the pay was in 2000.


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Msg ID: 2747144 Regret staying in HAA +2/-5     
Author:yeah timing is everything eye roll
10/17/2022 11:09:28 AM

Reply to: 2747132

but since when has becoming an airline pilot a a bad career move. since never. even with multiple furloughs, you would STILL be millions ahead of a helicopter pilot. you people are not terribly bright. YES, WE KNOW if you want more money, become an airline pilot WE GET IT ALREADY. ffs even the moron weird guy® may grasp this.



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Msg ID: 2747146 Regret staying in HAA +0/-1     
Author:the airlines used to be a boys club
10/17/2022 11:23:45 AM

Reply to: 2747144

and they chased 50% of the former helicopter pilots away and then they were too embarrassed to go back to flying helicopters lol 



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Msg ID: 2747151 Regret staying in HAA +2/-1     
Author:Mel
10/17/2022 12:20:32 PM

Reply to: 2747146

You can ALWAYS go back to helicopters, even during a furlough, and probably for more money than you were getting when you left,



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Msg ID: 2747153 Regret staying in HAA +0/-1     
Author:So
10/17/2022 12:56:54 PM

Reply to: 2747144

You don't get it. Not surprising.



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Msg ID: 2747171 Regret staying in HAA +4/-1     
Author:the point has apparently eluded you
10/17/2022 3:50:01 PM

Reply to: 2747144

I'm confident that it's not the only thing that has.

never before was an airline career attainable without a college degree, without previous multi-engine time, without an uncle in the business. none of that is necessary right now. 

but yeah, that was a sweet burn you made, right?



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Msg ID: 2747152 If you think sticking with rotors +2/-1     
Author:Means flying into your 60's
10/17/2022 12:27:53 PM

Reply to: 2747132

You have no one to blame but yourself and your poor financial decisions. It's not rocket science, guys.



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Msg ID: 2747166 Regret staying in HAA +11/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/17/2022 3:36:56 PM

Reply to: 2747132

This is Just Helicopters, not rtag or just want to be airline pilots. At this point we're all aware long term there is more money in fixed wing if you can make the jump young enough. Some of us are past that point or just have no desire to fly fixed wing. Do we really need a daily post about it? If it's the greatest thing you could ever do, why do you guys have to beg more of us to come over all the time?



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Msg ID: 2747172 Regret staying in HAA (NT) +0/-3     
Author:Yes, yes, give us more union bs!
10/17/2022 3:52:00 PM

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Msg ID: 2747175 Regret staying in HAA +2/-1     
Author:Yes, Yes, NotOnly More Union BS
10/17/2022 3:57:40 PM

Reply to: 2747172

But also management tripe and pablum.



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Msg ID: 2747177 You should welcome fixed-wing poaching. +4/-1     
Author:Win-Win
10/17/2022 4:20:22 PM

Reply to: 2747166

When people leave rotary-wing work for a better job, in this case fixed-wing work, they improve their lives. However unintentionally, they also improve the lives of the people left behind.

People are not paid by the value that they bring to the company. They are paid by how easily they are replaced. An exodus from the industry for greener pastures thins ready replacements.



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Msg ID: 2747178 You should welcome fixed-wing poaching. +0/-6     
Author:your value to the company
10/17/2022 4:23:05 PM

Reply to: 2747177

is defined by how easily you are replaced.

Duh!



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Msg ID: 2747186 You should welcome fixed-wing poaching. +0/-1     
Author:I Didn’t See Or Hear You Say It First
10/17/2022 4:38:36 PM

Reply to: 2747178

Save your "duh" for yourself.



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Msg ID: 2747190 There's no need for you to figure it out. +0/-1     
Author:Win-Win
10/17/2022 5:49:57 PM

Reply to: 2747178
Just watch salaries go up as people leave.


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Msg ID: 2747200 There's no need for you to figure it out. +0/-3     
Author:x54
10/17/2022 7:57:14 PM

Reply to: 2747190

Did you mother regret having a third child?



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Msg ID: 2747219 Keyword: "chance". It's still a chance! Airlines are a fickle career! (NT) +1/-1     
Author:Particularly today!
10/18/2022 6:55:09 AM

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Msg ID: 2747221 Keyword: "chance". It's still a chance! Airlines are a fickle career! +0/-2     
Author:no
10/18/2022 7:33:23 AM

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they are not



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Msg ID: 2747274 Keyword: "chance". It's still a chance! Airlines are a fickle career! +3/-1     
Author:Yes they are
10/18/2022 7:58:39 PM

Reply to: 2747221
COVID happened and a lot of you lost your job. Recession happens and a lot of you lose your job. None of that happens in HAA. It's more stable


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Msg ID: 2747288 Keyword: "chance". It's still a chance! Airlines are a fickle career! +1/-1     
Author:Class A airspace
10/19/2022 6:11:34 AM

Reply to: 2747274

That's fine, if furloughed you can always run to HAA to grab a quick check . Then when you get called back from furlough, throw HAA away like the trash it is with it's trash pay ! 



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Msg ID: 2747292 Do you even hear yourself? (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
10/19/2022 8:00:37 AM

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