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Msg ID: 2744937 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman +0/-3     
Author:with Line Pilots under one Local
9/30/2022 10:13:03 PM

Two different class and craft, and they plan to intermingle them into one Local!   Problems ahead!   



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Msg ID: 2744941 Airlines  +1/-1     
Author:do it
9/30/2022 10:36:03 PM

Reply to: 2744937

What's the problem?



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Msg ID: 2744944 Airlines  +3/-1     
Author:How many CA?
10/1/2022 5:44:31 AM

Reply to: 2744941

How many CA could it be? And would it really affect the "line" pilots? There are bigger fish to fry with AMC than worrying about the integration of CA into the union.



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Msg ID: 2744949 See CA's, the union already admits it doesn't care about YOUR problems! (NT) +0/-2     
Author:DEMAND your own LOCAL designation'
10/1/2022 8:36:40 AM

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Msg ID: 2744948 Um, no they don't! (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
10/1/2022 8:35:03 AM

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Msg ID: 2744955 Um, no they don't! (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Um, Yes They Do
10/1/2022 9:30:59 AM

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Msg ID: 2744956 Name the airline and union! (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
10/1/2022 9:50:35 AM

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Msg ID: 2744962 Name the airline and union! +0/-1     
Author:nt
10/1/2022 10:30:38 AM

Reply to: 2744956

United, ALPA



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Msg ID: 2744971 That's because they are LINE HOLDERS, including IOE +1/-1     
Author:If they are not LINE HOLDERS,
10/1/2022 12:22:08 PM

Reply to: 2744962

they are not represented by that MEC!



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Msg ID: 2744972 IOS's, the NMB has determined them in the SAME Category/Class (NT) +0/-1     
Author:not different, as they have in AMC
10/1/2022 12:26:34 PM

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Msg ID: 2744974 United: Single Class and Craft for pilots -and- instructors +0/-1     
Author:Behold:
10/1/2022 12:31:28 PM

Reply to: 2744972

 

 

 

https://nmb.gov/NMB_Application/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/39n006.pdf

 

Not the case at Air Methods!



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Msg ID: 2745062 Name the airline and union! +1/-3     
Author:Office Professionals Don’t Represent
10/2/2022 4:39:18 PM

Reply to: 2744962

Pilots very well. You have to work in an office, AND be a professional, according to some trivial minded union shills.



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Msg ID: 2744957 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman +1/-1     
Author:this
10/1/2022 9:58:29 AM

Reply to: 2744937

will not be a big problem



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Msg ID: 2744959 Conflict of interests, relegated to "committee", not represented  +0/-1     
Author:on EB equally, mixing of dues funds....
10/1/2022 10:04:29 AM

Reply to: 2744957
DEMAND a separate Local designation in-writing before you vote YES


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Msg ID: 2744963 Seems to be okay in 108 +1/-1     
Author:same list at PHI
10/1/2022 10:44:27 AM

Reply to: 2744937

Anyone disagree?



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Msg ID: 2744965 108? That EB doesn't even mention them in their meetings, other than to (NT) +0/-1     
Author:acknowledge their revenue (dues) stream
10/1/2022 10:56:01 AM

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Msg ID: 2744967 108? That EB doesn't even mention them in their meetings, other than to +0/-3     
Author:Olderguy
10/1/2022 11:35:33 AM

Reply to: 2744965

I have been wait for someone to file suit against the union and AMC for the illegal contract. There is a clause which prohibits hiring any pilot over 70.  That clause is patenty illegai. Curious as to why noone has fought it. 
Before someone jumps on and says it is ok because it is an agreement between two consenting parties, the agreement may not circumvent the law.  If you can pass a class 2 medical and complete training you may not be denied employment. 



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Msg ID: 2744968 The union unilaterally rolled over on that. Now, they created (NT) +0/-2     
Author:a hypocrisy in their CBA
10/1/2022 11:49:49 AM

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Msg ID: 2744985 Seems to be fine, not many of them +0/-1     
Author:And they don't seem to want a base
10/1/2022 2:19:40 PM

Reply to: 2744963
They come out and cover shifts, we seem to be all on the same team.


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Msg ID: 2744970 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman +0/-1     
Author:What's the problem?
10/1/2022 12:20:47 PM

Reply to: 2744937

No an issue that I can see.



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Msg ID: 2744976 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Olderguy
10/1/2022 12:48:17 PM

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Msg ID: 2744977 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman +0/-3     
Author:Olderguy
10/1/2022 12:50:29 PM

Reply to: 2744970

It is illegal to discriminate the basis of age. 121 carriers fo it because of FAA refs. There is no 135 age restroctopi.  The clause is illegal on its face. That is the problem. 



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Msg ID: 2744983 Funny. Didn’t hear or see you on the member meeting today voicing your (NT) +1/-1     
Author:Critical concerns..hmmm. Scared?
10/1/2022 2:08:11 PM

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Msg ID: 2744984 Just JM and PL crying anonymously again. Nothing to see (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Nothing at all
10/1/2022 2:08:49 PM

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Msg ID: 2744986 The Problem with the 109 is that they  +0/-3     
Author:wrote their By Laws (greenbook)
10/1/2022 2:34:49 PM

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or whatever they call it, without the Option of a Strike or walk out...the Big Wigs at the company know that and say "so what are you going to do about it?".......and all the union says is stop OT...lol......yeah ok.....until the union can really PUNCH hard back, then not worth it....the 109 hasn't had any grasp on the company since been there....Unless you can enforce a Strike or Walk out and missing flights...and Yeah I have been with the Local 108 and 109 for years.....all the Union Heads is blame the company....outsiders in the Union running the hen house...



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Msg ID: 2744995 Local 109 CAN strike and conduct work actions no different than the airline (NT) +0/-2     
Author:And ALPA. Stop your lies
10/1/2022 6:26:22 PM

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Msg ID: 2745008 Yup, but only AFTER allowed to do so by the NMB (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
10/2/2022 6:23:28 AM

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Msg ID: 2744989 A Membership Meeting at 0630 A.M. (NT) +0/-1     
Author:How nice of you to invite us!
10/1/2022 2:54:32 PM

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Msg ID: 2744994 You don’t read the updates do you. Started at 0700 pacific time (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Too early for snowflakes
10/1/2022 6:25:33 PM

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Msg ID: 2745012 Mailed @ 2331.... had a year to plan it, and you last +0/-2     
Author:minute it. Not very professional...
10/2/2022 8:51:21 AM

Reply to: 2744994
... for a "professional's" union!


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Msg ID: 2744990 How many at the meeting today? What did they vote on? (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anything?
10/1/2022 3:04:03 PM

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Msg ID: 2745002 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman +1/-2     
Author:Ever notice
10/2/2022 12:35:43 AM

Reply to: 2744937

that even when there aren't problems, a union will create them?



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Msg ID: 2745542 Big problem brewing at 109, as they intend to mix Check Airman +0/-1     
Author:Any
10/4/2022 9:43:04 PM

Reply to: 2744937

traveling job for a helicopter operator is not going to wind up fun, at all.



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