Msg ID:
2744162 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +2/-2
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Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 11:01:09 PM
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Any details about the Bristow / Era AW139 accident at Houma Airport 9-24-22? |
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Msg ID:
2744167 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +0/-3
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Author:Shouldn't
9/25/2022 4:21:45 AM
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the Gear be down? |
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Msg ID:
2744180 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +11/-1
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Author:Team mate
9/25/2022 10:19:28 AM
Reply to: 2744167
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For what the crew was facing, kudos to getting it on the ground upright. |
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Msg ID:
2744184 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +2/-3
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Author:What
9/25/2022 11:09:50 AM
Reply to: 2744180
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was the crew facing? OEI/Eng fire/T/R failure?? |
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Msg ID:
2744210 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +10/-0
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Author:...
9/25/2022 6:50:58 PM
Reply to: 2744162
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From ASN: https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/283731
One comment reported that the helicopter suffered an electrical fire and loss off essential bus (EECs high sided, MR and engine overspeed) while enroute. The crew also had problems with flight controls. At 6000 feet and 185 and couldn't stop it with full down collective. The crew controlled the aircraft by cycling between idle and fly on engine mode switches. Took 3 laps of airport until able to figure out "how to put it down". Killed engines at 200 feet 140 knots on final, high speed flare /auto and dumped it. Collapsed gear, running on belly. Slid into grass. |
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Msg ID:
2744212 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +2/-5
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Author:Spielberg
9/25/2022 7:32:22 PM
Reply to: 2744210
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How much for the movie rights? |
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Msg ID:
2744312 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +2/-1
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Author:If true
9/26/2022 6:56:36 PM
Reply to: 2744210
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they used their heads in a really commendable fashion! |
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Msg ID:
2744237 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +0/-3
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Author:Wiki report very flawed
9/26/2022 6:16:50 AM
Reply to: 2744162
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Lots of inaccurate data points. You might want to at least verify some of the information. |
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Msg ID:
2744238 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +3/-1
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Author:Wikinewsflash
9/26/2022 7:25:51 AM
Reply to: 2744237
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No one re-posting an article actually makes an attempt to verify the article. No more than the paper boy delivering the newspaper actually makes a attempt to validate its contents. That validation should be expected of the source, and the listener. |
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Msg ID:
2744239 |
Well...the article was put out... +2/-2
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Author:...
9/26/2022 8:09:45 AM
Reply to: 2744237
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by the Flight Safety Foundation which last I checked was pretty reputable. Whats your source for the "inaccurate" data points? Care to share it? |
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Msg ID:
2744252 |
Good job to the crew +14/-0
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Author:Hope I’m that good
9/26/2022 11:05:17 AM
Reply to: 2744242
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Good job to the crew whatever the scenario they kept flying and worked the problem, pretty sure they would have checked the manual switches at least 1000 times, this CVR is probably very interesting! No fatalities in a unprecedented untrained scenario and EP. Take a deep breath and try to put yourself at 6000 feet where you can't and are fighting for everyone on boards life, Again good job to the crew! |
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Msg ID:
2744331 |
Good job to the crew +9/-0
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Author:69-35
9/26/2022 10:48:28 PM
Reply to: 2744328
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Fantastic work by that crew. Some serious pilot sh*t there. |
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Msg ID:
2744333 |
Well...the article was put out... +0/-3
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Author:Alt and airspeed are the first two
9/27/2022 1:04:55 AM
Reply to: 2744239
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https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N811TA/history/20220924/2224Z/tracklog
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Msg ID:
2744336 |
I guess entire World Wide AW139 Fleet is (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Grounded after an Interior Electrical
9/27/2022 2:35:02 AM
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Msg ID:
2744337 |
The entire World Wide AW139 Fleet must be +8/-1
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Author:Grounded after an Interior Electrical
9/27/2022 2:40:38 AM
Reply to: 2744162
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Fire that didn't burn the helicopter and wasn't put out after landing. Along with a mysterious High Side that couldn't be corrected with full down collective. |
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Msg ID:
2744381 |
The entire World Wide AW139 Fleet must be +2/-0
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Author:Ritchie
9/27/2022 3:29:38 PM
Reply to: 2744337
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The video of an Era astar landing on an ec120 in Galveston was better |
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Msg ID:
2744400 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +2/-2
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Author:none
9/27/2022 6:33:04 PM
Reply to: 2744162
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After the fact it's always easy to armchair quarterback and that is not intended to be what this is, but I'm curious to know why the overhead ECL's weren't used instead of using the engine levers. Sometimes you just have to pull some pilot skills out of your rear and make things happen. It looks like that's what they did but it would still be nice to know.
With both EECs overspeeding it sounds like a link was lost and each engine thought the other sustained an engine failure and they both just dumped fuel to the fire to maintain either the others missing power or a computer perceived loss of RPM.
I know first hand from flying these machines that when doing the daily ground based powerchecks Era wanted done, that if they were performed incorrectly and you took one engine from flight to idle, and moved the other from idle to flight anywhere in the rpm transition stage, rather than moving the #2 to flight before bringing the other to idle, or let it stabilize at idle and then bring the #2 to flight... the online engine computer would think that the other went offline and dump full throttle to the engine as if it was a sustained inflight power loss. So much torque was added that it would overspeed the RPM on the ground and rotate a gross weight machine 10-20 degrees left skidding the nose across dry pavement. |
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Msg ID:
2744581 |
Bristow / Era Aw139 Accident +1/-0
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Author:Or
9/29/2022 2:42:23 PM
Reply to: 2744400
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If the collective position sensor that compensates for droop in rpm went buggy it would do the same thing |
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