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Msg ID: 2744105 No medical for me +13/-11     
Author:Figures
9/24/2022 11:58:45 AM

Just got deferred and subsequent denial due to a mild reaction from vaccine.

the shot affected my blood pressure upon standing, and have slight orthostatic hypertension. 
FAA says since the long term effects of the vaccine are not known, they cannot guarantee certification.

 

so basically, if you got the shot, and have a side effect, even one that you can take meds for that are approved, you get to lose your medical. 

what a joke. 

 



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Msg ID: 2744106 No medical for me +5/-1     
Author:AME
9/24/2022 12:00:25 PM

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Msg ID: 2744107 No medical for me +0/-1     
Author:JB
9/24/2022 12:02:43 PM

Reply to: 2744105

Which vaccination are you talking about? Covid or Flu?

 



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Msg ID: 2744112 No medical for me +2/-4     
Author:Covid
9/24/2022 12:29:49 PM

Reply to: 2744107

covid booster shot required by Dartmouth



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Msg ID: 2744128 Sue them! (NT) +4/-3     
Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 3:55:10 PM

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Msg ID: 2744153 Sue them! +0/-3     
Author:Yes
9/24/2022 9:23:38 PM

Reply to: 2744128

Take none of this mRNA good for everyone or whatever stuff!!

Don't take any chrappppppp from any of them - push back via every avenue you can, constantly!  Don't forget government, they are very powerful.  Put all of them between a rock and a whatever you can nvent had place.  Look at the law firm of P DeCato in Lebanon.



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Msg ID: 2744111 No medical for me +7/-3     
Author:dang
9/24/2022 12:16:51 PM

Reply to: 2744105

Sad to hear that.  Hope you don't becaome a SADS number.

Let the clss action cases begin. 

usfreedomflyers.org



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Msg ID: 2744113 No medical for me +4/-4     
Author:There
9/24/2022 12:37:24 PM

Reply to: 2744111

Is no lawsuit for Covid vaccines, they're all immune in every shape and form from legal action.

if you get messed up. You're on your own. 



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Msg ID: 2744117 Not for long The blowback is coming (NT) +1/-3     
Author:Just a matter of time
9/24/2022 1:06:59 PM

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Msg ID: 2744119 Not for long The blowback is coming +4/-4     
Author:Doesnt
9/24/2022 2:14:51 PM

Reply to: 2744117

Help the thousands that are messed up from long Covid and or the vaccine. It's gonna take an airline mishap due to pilot Health issues for the FAA to wake up. Already there have been. Over 48 diversions due to pilot issues as well as the passenger in Florida who landed the caravan after the tour pilot went cold and passed out having had the vaccine 2 days prior. FAA.....silent.



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Msg ID: 2744126 Not for long The blowback is coming +3/-6     
Author:Hey OP
9/24/2022 3:48:57 PM

Reply to: 2744119

You are so full of S$1T



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Msg ID: 2744139 Not for long The blowback is coming +2/-5     
Author:Typical
9/24/2022 5:34:21 PM

Reply to: 2744126

Liberal "vaccines do no harm" statement. You can't handle the truth that both covid and the vaccine can both cause bad things. At least I can hopefully recover, but unfortunately, for all you libs who don't beleive....there is no cure for being insufferable pole smokers.



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Msg ID: 2744146 Not for long The blowback is coming +3/-6     
Author:I'd rather be a Pole
9/24/2022 6:53:41 PM

Reply to: 2744139

Smoker and have a good paying job than you working at WalMart with your gun toten tards.



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Msg ID: 2744160 Not for long The blowback is coming +4/-3     
Author:Guns huh
9/24/2022 10:28:09 PM

Reply to: 2744146

How would you fair in the end against the retards with their guns? My guess is you'd be cold before you knew it.



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Msg ID: 2744209 Not for long The blowback is coming +2/-1     
Author:good info
9/25/2022 6:34:34 PM

Reply to: 2744126

Just cause the company who made vaccine is immuned DOESD NOT MEAN YOUR COMPNY IS IMMUNED FOR FORCING VACCINE!!! 



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Msg ID: 2744261 Not for long The blowback is coming +0/-1     
Author:They are immune
9/26/2022 12:30:14 PM

Reply to: 2744209

Per the government mandates at that time.



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Msg ID: 2744265 Not for long The blowback is coming +0/-1     
Author:They are immune
9/26/2022 12:41:57 PM

Reply to: 2744209

Per the government mandates at that time.



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Msg ID: 2744129 The hospital that demanded you take it is not immune! (NT) +4/-3     
Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 3:56:18 PM

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Msg ID: 2744137 The hospital that demanded you take it is not immune! +3/-4     
Author:path
9/24/2022 5:12:24 PM

Reply to: 2744129

If I don't get the death jab, I am 100% protected against vaccine side affects and 99.8% protected against the Fraudchi bat viruse.



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Msg ID: 2744140 The hospital that demanded you take it is not immune! +0/-3     
Author:You don’t know anyhting
9/24/2022 5:36:42 PM

Reply to: 2744129

Look at the paperwork you signed when you took the shot. No matter where you took it. Everyone is protected, the only people to lose are the ones who got injured or messed up.

 

there is NO help. NONE 



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Msg ID: 2744141 No medical for me +1/-1     
Author:Go
9/24/2022 5:54:13 PM

Reply to: 2744105

at them hair teeth and eye balls whilst looking at work overseas beer a different medical jurisdiction - just an idea.



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Msg ID: 2744147 OP Isn't Wrong +2/-3     
Author:AME Guide
9/24/2022 7:08:51 PM

Reply to: 2744105

OP isn't wrong. See the link straight from the FAA. All the AME guides are publicly available. Don't lie and don't fly if you run the risk of passing out for whatever reason, but definitely don't say anything you don't mean on your medical app or you may end up like the OP (assuming it isn't a troll).

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/media/COVID-19_disposition_table.pdf



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Msg ID: 2744149 Public Use Operators don't require one by FARs (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 7:58:20 PM

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Msg ID: 2744150 Check Airmen Don't Need A Medical (NT) +0/-2     
Author:(unless acting as PIC)
9/24/2022 7:59:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2744213 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1     
Author:Anonymous
9/25/2022 7:34:52 PM

Reply to: 2744105

Have they run any tests to understand where the orthostatic hypotension came from?

The reality is sometimes things in life just do happen, and they could align with when you got the vaccine either randomly or possibly because of the vaccine.

 



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Msg ID: 2744246 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1     
Author:Whenever Someone Says “ The
9/26/2022 10:00:30 AM

Reply to: 2744213

Realit is" they have no idea what reality is.



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Msg ID: 2744251 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1     
Author:........
9/26/2022 10:49:50 AM

Reply to: 2744246

But are you 100% sure it happened as a result of the vaccine?

I'm not saying it definitely did or didn't ... 

But, on an average day, lets say 10,000 people in the US will have a heart attack ...

If one of those 10,000 people had gottent the vaccine a week before the heart attack (s)he may blame it on the vaccine, even though the rate of heart attacks did not go up, even in the group who were vaccinated.

Also, the vaccine has lowered the incidence of severe covid and hospitalization by 90% - But yes, there are some adverse reactions and unintended consequences from it and it's quite possible you are in that group.

It's also quite possible that some people who get the vaccine are about to tip over into some other disease (cancer or other autoimmune), and this was the straw the broke the camel's back (because it does invoke a strong immune response)

So, it is very unfortunate that this happened to you and my family and I will pray for your complete recovery. I suspect that there's a very good chance you will recover, but it must be very challenging dealing with this right now. 



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Msg ID: 2744259 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:26:32 PM

Reply to: 2744246

Timeline.

got 1st shot July 2nd 2021

chest pain after for about a week. Then subsided

2nd dose was july 30th 2021

after second dose I was out of work for about 2 weeks due to the reaction. Again, severe heart pain, and neurological issues. ER, @ Vanderbilt found nothing wrong other than a severe high d Dimer / blood clotting test. After those results they did numerous other tests that found nothing.

 

went back to work after this resolved for a few months.

 

March 2022. Booster.

 

May 2022. night call, got up to head out, and fell over. Flat out on my face. Rushed to ER. Blood pressure really

low. Heart electrical disturbances, as well as EF on repeat echo down Substantially. Same cardiologist as prior testing was attending. Repeated blood testing to show D Dimer again high. All

other testing normal. His diagnosis is "post vaccine induced orthostatic hyooptension / cardiomyopathy".

 

Im very Glad this didn't happen in flight, and I'm permanatly grounded until

the FAA decided there is a course of action for this issue. So far, any reaction to the vaccine is not permissible to issue a medical in their eyes.

 

over time, I've seen alot more in the news about this, and even before my situation seen 10-15 pilots having similar symptoms. This will need to be addressed eventually, and I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else, but my suspicion is that it will, and I pray it doesn't in flight.



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Msg ID: 2744262 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1     
Author:that is not a diagnosis
9/26/2022 12:34:49 PM

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"post vaccine induced orthostatic hyooptension / cardiomyopathy".

Sorry bro but your "doctor" made that one up. only exists in internet land



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Msg ID: 2744347 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0     
Author:Slug
9/27/2022 8:47:00 AM

Reply to: 2744259

There are going to be trolls on here that will bad mouth the arrival of the Virgin Mary or Mother Theresa.  If they legit don't like them then so be it.  It's in a forum such as this that can expose or at least crack open the minds of others to see what a negative effect blind allegiance can have on us as a whole.  I may have been a lucky one who was unaffected by the initial two dosages.  I do not think it protected me but I have no way of validating that.  I do know of a few people who had adverse reactions.  As severe as myocarditis which led to a healthy 40 year olds untimely death.  As I learned during his funeral, he too suffered symptoms from his first initial dosage.  It was the year follow up shot that is suspected to have casued his death within two weeks.  Coincidence? Maybe.  Causal factor? It would be nice to know.  Unfortunately, the lines are divided.  TDS is so severe that you cannot hold a conversation/debate before someone says you are racist, homophobe,...       



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Msg ID: 2744367 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1     
Author:yeah bro
9/27/2022 11:36:15 AM

Reply to: 2744347

us libs are supposed to engage some maga that says he got the vaccine yet didn't think it protected him but "has no way of knowing" 



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Msg ID: 2745525 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0     
Author:It Was Called A Vaccine, Sis
10/4/2022 5:28:30 PM

Reply to: 2744367

But does it meet the definition of a vaccine, sis? Or does it fit a definition of experimental gene therapy better, sis ? Notice that ALL liability was removed, sis. Is that normal for a vaccine or any other medication, sis? Are you even able to use your head to think for yourself, sis?



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Msg ID: 2744256 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1     
Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:12:30 PM

Reply to: 2744213

I've had CMRI, ECHO, TTT, Numerous Blood Testing, Holter Monitors x4, and few others. Vanderbilt Neurology and Cardiology both stated all tests are normal, and only thing they see is persistent spike protein and micro clotting in my blood causing these symptoms directly as a result of the vaccine.



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Msg ID: 2744258 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +3/-0     
Author:those symptoms are ling covid
9/26/2022 12:24:57 PM

Reply to: 2744256

you probably had covid yet failed to mention that part of the story bro



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Msg ID: 2744260 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1     
Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:29:11 PM

Reply to: 2744258

Been tested for Covid via PCR testing as well as Antibody testing 14 times via numerous doctors. All have been negative as I've never had Covid.

 

if you were smart enough, you would see that the spike protein that The mRNA vaccines causes the body to make is identical to the spike from the virus, therefor the symptoms of long Covid and vaccine induced injury are identical. 



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Msg ID: 2744263 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0     
Author:lol
9/26/2022 12:37:36 PM

Reply to: 2744260

doctors don't test you for covid bro



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Msg ID: 2744266 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-0     
Author:quite amazing, really
9/26/2022 12:45:30 PM

Reply to: 2744263

let's just say it is the vaccine. what kind of a selfish irresponsible f**knut would want to pilot an aircraft after passing out just 4 months ago? is your company even going to allow you to fly if you had a medical? the answer is f**k no. who the hell would get on an aircraft with you? nobody, that's who.ayfkm bro that's why this whole story is bullsh*t.



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Msg ID: 2744269 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1     
Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:54:24 PM

Reply to: 2744266

No one. I have not worked since that day, and don't intend too until this issue is 100% resolved.

I will say this, many people pass out, for lots of reasons...Im sure NO ONE here has passed out from being too drunk, a concussion, fear of needles, etc. it's called syncope and the FAA has a clear path forward on testing you need from that happening. 

 

again, good luck to everyone just wanted to share my run in, despite knowing this forum is 90% idiots, maybe this could help someone down the line.



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Msg ID: 2744271 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-0     
Author:don't intend to work?
9/26/2022 1:03:18 PM

Reply to: 2744269

odd for somebody not intending to fly to try to get a medical. you go from having a mild reaction to ending up in the hospital depending on what part of the story you want to push. your words:

"so basically, if you got the shot, and have a side effect, even one that you can take meds for that are approved, you get to lose your medical."

That sounds a lot like somebody trying to get a medical. 



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Msg ID: 2744273 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-0     
Author:interesting
9/26/2022 1:08:45 PM

Reply to: 2744271

one minute you're cured (when you want your medical) and the next you can't work because you're so screwed up from the vaccine. lol bro



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Msg ID: 2744411 How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/27/2022 9:15:35 PM

Reply to: 2744273
Someone wants to quit and be a martyr at the same time


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Msg ID: 2744267 No medical for me +2/-0     
Author:it went from a "mild reaction"
9/26/2022 12:48:38 PM

Reply to: 2744105

to passing out before a flight and ending up in the hospital due to low blood pressure. lol bro get your story straight



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Msg ID: 2744268 No medical for me +0/-0     
Author:here's you "mild" reaction
9/26/2022 12:53:07 PM

Reply to: 2744267

"May 2022. night call, got up to head out, and fell over. Flat out on my face. Rushed to ER. Blood pressure really low. Heart electrical disturbances, as well as EF on repeat echo down Substantially. Same cardiologist as prior testing was attending. Repeated blood testing to show D Dimer again high."

 

I can't imagine why they won't let you fly. I'd get in a helicopter with you anytime bro lol

 

 



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Msg ID: 2744270 It baffles me +3/-3     
Author:Why?
9/26/2022 1:01:49 PM

Reply to: 2744268

Why would a healthy person willing injetc an experimental drug into their body?  was your job worth more than your long term health? 

yes, I lost my job because I refused to comply. And I will do it again too.  Also, when the government (like Canada) can cut off access to your banks, depriving you of a means to live,,, well is this really a free country? 

 



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Msg ID: 2744272 No medical for me +3/-2     
Author:OP
9/26/2022 1:06:47 PM

Reply to: 2744268

Typical internet JH tough guy trying to put his spin on something.

for your reference "bro" 

Orthostatic hypertension is common. you ever stand up too fast and feel light headed? That's what it is. Except in this case it was being caused from the vaccine. Since then, it has gone away. in fact, all of the symptoms have gone away, the issue lies with the AME/FAA having a pathway for documented vaccine induced symptoms VS long Covid. The entire point of this thread was to warn others who have long Covid and or vaccine issues, that to be careful how they're presented.



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Msg ID: 2744282 No medical for me +1/-3     
Author:listen you idiot
9/26/2022 2:56:00 PM

Reply to: 2744272

a loss of consciousness is disqaulifying for one year for any class of medical, whether it's the vaccine or whatever. 



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Msg ID: 2744287 No medical for me +0/-0     
Author:says he’s not trying to get a medical
9/26/2022 3:34:42 PM

Reply to: 2744282

 

oh no, wouldn't be that irresponsible 

Op: "Just got deferred and subsequent denial due to a mild reaction from vaccine."



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Msg ID: 2744306 No medical for me +1/-1     
Author:more of his "mild" reaction
9/26/2022 6:44:45 PM

Reply to: 2744287

says it's a "joke" that the FAA won't let him fly.

 

"after second dose I was out of work for about 2 weeks due to the reaction. Again, severe heart pain, and neurological issues. ER, @ Vanderbilt found nothing wrong other than a severe high d Dimer / blood clotting test."

 



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Msg ID: 2744412 No medical for me +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
9/27/2022 9:17:45 PM

Reply to: 2744306
Poor martyr baby OP


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Msg ID: 2744433 No medical for me +0/-0     
Author:Nothing Ever Happens Until It
9/28/2022 7:59:53 AM

Reply to: 2744412

Happens to you. 



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