Msg ID:
2744105 |
No medical for me +13/-11
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Author:Figures
9/24/2022 11:58:45 AM
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Just got deferred and subsequent denial due to a mild reaction from vaccine.
the shot affected my blood pressure upon standing, and have slight orthostatic hypertension. FAA says since the long term effects of the vaccine are not known, they cannot guarantee certification.
so basically, if you got the shot, and have a side effect, even one that you can take meds for that are approved, you get to lose your medical.
what a joke.
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Msg ID:
2744107 |
No medical for me +0/-1
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Author:JB
9/24/2022 12:02:43 PM
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Which vaccination are you talking about? Covid or Flu?
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Msg ID:
2744112 |
No medical for me +2/-4
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Author:Covid
9/24/2022 12:29:49 PM
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covid booster shot required by Dartmouth |
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Msg ID:
2744128 |
Sue them! (NT) +4/-3
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Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 3:55:10 PM
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Msg ID:
2744153 |
Sue them! +0/-3
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Author:Yes
9/24/2022 9:23:38 PM
Reply to: 2744128
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Take none of this mRNA good for everyone or whatever stuff!!
Don't take any chrappppppp from any of them - push back via every avenue you can, constantly! Don't forget government, they are very powerful. Put all of them between a rock and a whatever you can nvent had place. Look at the law firm of P DeCato in Lebanon. |
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Msg ID:
2744111 |
No medical for me +7/-3
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Author:dang
9/24/2022 12:16:51 PM
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Sad to hear that. Hope you don't becaome a SADS number.
Let the clss action cases begin.
usfreedomflyers.org |
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Msg ID:
2744113 |
No medical for me +4/-4
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Author:There
9/24/2022 12:37:24 PM
Reply to: 2744111
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Is no lawsuit for Covid vaccines, they're all immune in every shape and form from legal action.
if you get messed up. You're on your own. |
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Msg ID:
2744117 |
Not for long The blowback is coming (NT) +1/-3
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Author:Just a matter of time
9/24/2022 1:06:59 PM
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Msg ID:
2744119 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +4/-4
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Author:Doesnt
9/24/2022 2:14:51 PM
Reply to: 2744117
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Help the thousands that are messed up from long Covid and or the vaccine. It's gonna take an airline mishap due to pilot Health issues for the FAA to wake up. Already there have been. Over 48 diversions due to pilot issues as well as the passenger in Florida who landed the caravan after the tour pilot went cold and passed out having had the vaccine 2 days prior. FAA.....silent. |
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Msg ID:
2744126 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +3/-6
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Author:Hey OP
9/24/2022 3:48:57 PM
Reply to: 2744119
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You are so full of S$1T |
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Msg ID:
2744139 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +2/-5
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Author:Typical
9/24/2022 5:34:21 PM
Reply to: 2744126
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Liberal "vaccines do no harm" statement. You can't handle the truth that both covid and the vaccine can both cause bad things. At least I can hopefully recover, but unfortunately, for all you libs who don't beleive....there is no cure for being insufferable pole smokers. |
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Msg ID:
2744146 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +3/-6
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Author:I'd rather be a Pole
9/24/2022 6:53:41 PM
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Smoker and have a good paying job than you working at WalMart with your gun toten tards. |
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Msg ID:
2744160 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +4/-3
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Author:Guns huh
9/24/2022 10:28:09 PM
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How would you fair in the end against the retards with their guns? My guess is you'd be cold before you knew it. |
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Msg ID:
2744209 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +2/-1
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Author:good info
9/25/2022 6:34:34 PM
Reply to: 2744126
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Just cause the company who made vaccine is immuned DOESD NOT MEAN YOUR COMPNY IS IMMUNED FOR FORCING VACCINE!!! |
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Msg ID:
2744261 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +0/-1
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Author:They are immune
9/26/2022 12:30:14 PM
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Per the government mandates at that time. |
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Msg ID:
2744265 |
Not for long The blowback is coming +0/-1
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Author:They are immune
9/26/2022 12:41:57 PM
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Per the government mandates at that time. |
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Msg ID:
2744129 |
The hospital that demanded you take it is not immune! (NT) +4/-3
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Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 3:56:18 PM
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Msg ID:
2744137 |
The hospital that demanded you take it is not immune! +3/-4
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Author:path
9/24/2022 5:12:24 PM
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If I don't get the death jab, I am 100% protected against vaccine side affects and 99.8% protected against the Fraudchi bat viruse. |
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Msg ID:
2744140 |
The hospital that demanded you take it is not immune! +0/-3
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Author:You don’t know anyhting
9/24/2022 5:36:42 PM
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Look at the paperwork you signed when you took the shot. No matter where you took it. Everyone is protected, the only people to lose are the ones who got injured or messed up.
there is NO help. NONE |
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Msg ID:
2744141 |
No medical for me +1/-1
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Author:Go
9/24/2022 5:54:13 PM
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at them hair teeth and eye balls whilst looking at work overseas beer a different medical jurisdiction - just an idea. |
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Msg ID:
2744147 |
OP Isn't Wrong +2/-3
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Author:AME Guide
9/24/2022 7:08:51 PM
Reply to: 2744105
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OP isn't wrong. See the link straight from the FAA. All the AME guides are publicly available. Don't lie and don't fly if you run the risk of passing out for whatever reason, but definitely don't say anything you don't mean on your medical app or you may end up like the OP (assuming it isn't a troll).
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/media/COVID-19_disposition_table.pdf |
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Msg ID:
2744149 |
Public Use Operators don't require one by FARs (NT) +0/-1
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Author:Anonymous
9/24/2022 7:58:20 PM
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Msg ID:
2744150 |
Check Airmen Don't Need A Medical (NT) +0/-2
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Author:(unless acting as PIC)
9/24/2022 7:59:40 PM
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Msg ID:
2744213 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1
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Author:Anonymous
9/25/2022 7:34:52 PM
Reply to: 2744105
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Have they run any tests to understand where the orthostatic hypotension came from?
The reality is sometimes things in life just do happen, and they could align with when you got the vaccine either randomly or possibly because of the vaccine.
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Msg ID:
2744246 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1
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Author:Whenever Someone Says “ The
9/26/2022 10:00:30 AM
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Realit is" they have no idea what reality is. |
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Msg ID:
2744251 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1
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Author:........
9/26/2022 10:49:50 AM
Reply to: 2744246
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But are you 100% sure it happened as a result of the vaccine?
I'm not saying it definitely did or didn't ...
But, on an average day, lets say 10,000 people in the US will have a heart attack ...
If one of those 10,000 people had gottent the vaccine a week before the heart attack (s)he may blame it on the vaccine, even though the rate of heart attacks did not go up, even in the group who were vaccinated.
Also, the vaccine has lowered the incidence of severe covid and hospitalization by 90% - But yes, there are some adverse reactions and unintended consequences from it and it's quite possible you are in that group.
It's also quite possible that some people who get the vaccine are about to tip over into some other disease (cancer or other autoimmune), and this was the straw the broke the camel's back (because it does invoke a strong immune response)
So, it is very unfortunate that this happened to you and my family and I will pray for your complete recovery. I suspect that there's a very good chance you will recover, but it must be very challenging dealing with this right now. |
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Msg ID:
2744259 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0
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Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:26:32 PM
Reply to: 2744246
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Timeline.
got 1st shot July 2nd 2021
chest pain after for about a week. Then subsided
2nd dose was july 30th 2021
after second dose I was out of work for about 2 weeks due to the reaction. Again, severe heart pain, and neurological issues. ER, @ Vanderbilt found nothing wrong other than a severe high d Dimer / blood clotting test. After those results they did numerous other tests that found nothing.
went back to work after this resolved for a few months.
March 2022. Booster.
May 2022. night call, got up to head out, and fell over. Flat out on my face. Rushed to ER. Blood pressure really
low. Heart electrical disturbances, as well as EF on repeat echo down Substantially. Same cardiologist as prior testing was attending. Repeated blood testing to show D Dimer again high. All
other testing normal. His diagnosis is "post vaccine induced orthostatic hyooptension / cardiomyopathy".
Im very Glad this didn't happen in flight, and I'm permanatly grounded until
the FAA decided there is a course of action for this issue. So far, any reaction to the vaccine is not permissible to issue a medical in their eyes.
over time, I've seen alot more in the news about this, and even before my situation seen 10-15 pilots having similar symptoms. This will need to be addressed eventually, and I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else, but my suspicion is that it will, and I pray it doesn't in flight. |
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Msg ID:
2744262 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1
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Author:that is not a diagnosis
9/26/2022 12:34:49 PM
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"post vaccine induced orthostatic hyooptension / cardiomyopathy".
Sorry bro but your "doctor" made that one up. only exists in internet land |
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Msg ID:
2744347 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0
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Author:Slug
9/27/2022 8:47:00 AM
Reply to: 2744259
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There are going to be trolls on here that will bad mouth the arrival of the Virgin Mary or Mother Theresa. If they legit don't like them then so be it. It's in a forum such as this that can expose or at least crack open the minds of others to see what a negative effect blind allegiance can have on us as a whole. I may have been a lucky one who was unaffected by the initial two dosages. I do not think it protected me but I have no way of validating that. I do know of a few people who had adverse reactions. As severe as myocarditis which led to a healthy 40 year olds untimely death. As I learned during his funeral, he too suffered symptoms from his first initial dosage. It was the year follow up shot that is suspected to have casued his death within two weeks. Coincidence? Maybe. Causal factor? It would be nice to know. Unfortunately, the lines are divided. TDS is so severe that you cannot hold a conversation/debate before someone says you are racist, homophobe,... |
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Msg ID:
2744367 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1
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Author:yeah bro
9/27/2022 11:36:15 AM
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us libs are supposed to engage some maga that says he got the vaccine yet didn't think it protected him but "has no way of knowing" |
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Msg ID:
2745525 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0
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Author:It Was Called A Vaccine, Sis
10/4/2022 5:28:30 PM
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But does it meet the definition of a vaccine, sis? Or does it fit a definition of experimental gene therapy better, sis ? Notice that ALL liability was removed, sis. Is that normal for a vaccine or any other medication, sis? Are you even able to use your head to think for yourself, sis? |
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Msg ID:
2744256 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1
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Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:12:30 PM
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I've had CMRI, ECHO, TTT, Numerous Blood Testing, Holter Monitors x4, and few others. Vanderbilt Neurology and Cardiology both stated all tests are normal, and only thing they see is persistent spike protein and micro clotting in my blood causing these symptoms directly as a result of the vaccine. |
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Msg ID:
2744258 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +3/-0
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Author:those symptoms are ling covid
9/26/2022 12:24:57 PM
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you probably had covid yet failed to mention that part of the story bro |
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Msg ID:
2744260 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-1
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Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:29:11 PM
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Been tested for Covid via PCR testing as well as Antibody testing 14 times via numerous doctors. All have been negative as I've never had Covid.
if you were smart enough, you would see that the spike protein that The mRNA vaccines causes the body to make is identical to the spike from the virus, therefor the symptoms of long Covid and vaccine induced injury are identical. |
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Msg ID:
2744263 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0
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Author:lol
9/26/2022 12:37:36 PM
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doctors don't test you for covid bro |
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Msg ID:
2744266 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-0
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Author:quite amazing, really
9/26/2022 12:45:30 PM
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let's just say it is the vaccine. what kind of a selfish irresponsible f**knut would want to pilot an aircraft after passing out just 4 months ago? is your company even going to allow you to fly if you had a medical? the answer is f**k no. who the hell would get on an aircraft with you? nobody, that's who.ayfkm bro that's why this whole story is bullsh*t. |
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Msg ID:
2744269 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-1
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Author:OP
9/26/2022 12:54:24 PM
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No one. I have not worked since that day, and don't intend too until this issue is 100% resolved.
I will say this, many people pass out, for lots of reasons...Im sure NO ONE here has passed out from being too drunk, a concussion, fear of needles, etc. it's called syncope and the FAA has a clear path forward on testing you need from that happening.
again, good luck to everyone just wanted to share my run in, despite knowing this forum is 90% idiots, maybe this could help someone down the line. |
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Msg ID:
2744271 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-0
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Author:don't intend to work?
9/26/2022 1:03:18 PM
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odd for somebody not intending to fly to try to get a medical. you go from having a mild reaction to ending up in the hospital depending on what part of the story you want to push. your words:
"so basically, if you got the shot, and have a side effect, even one that you can take meds for that are approved, you get to lose your medical."
That sounds a lot like somebody trying to get a medical. |
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Msg ID:
2744273 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +1/-0
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Author:interesting
9/26/2022 1:08:45 PM
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one minute you're cured (when you want your medical) and the next you can't work because you're so screwed up from the vaccine. lol bro |
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Msg ID:
2744411 |
How long after the vaccine did this happen? +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
9/27/2022 9:15:35 PM
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Someone wants to quit and be a martyr at the same time |
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Msg ID:
2744267 |
No medical for me +2/-0
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Author:it went from a "mild reaction"
9/26/2022 12:48:38 PM
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to passing out before a flight and ending up in the hospital due to low blood pressure. lol bro get your story straight |
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Msg ID:
2744268 |
No medical for me +0/-0
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Author:here's you "mild" reaction
9/26/2022 12:53:07 PM
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"May 2022. night call, got up to head out, and fell over. Flat out on my face. Rushed to ER. Blood pressure really low. Heart electrical disturbances, as well as EF on repeat echo down Substantially. Same cardiologist as prior testing was attending. Repeated blood testing to show D Dimer again high."
I can't imagine why they won't let you fly. I'd get in a helicopter with you anytime bro lol
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Msg ID:
2744270 |
It baffles me +3/-3
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Author:Why?
9/26/2022 1:01:49 PM
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Why would a healthy person willing injetc an experimental drug into their body? was your job worth more than your long term health?
yes, I lost my job because I refused to comply. And I will do it again too. Also, when the government (like Canada) can cut off access to your banks, depriving you of a means to live,,, well is this really a free country?
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Msg ID:
2744272 |
No medical for me +3/-2
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Author:OP
9/26/2022 1:06:47 PM
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Typical internet JH tough guy trying to put his spin on something.
for your reference "bro"
Orthostatic hypertension is common. you ever stand up too fast and feel light headed? That's what it is. Except in this case it was being caused from the vaccine. Since then, it has gone away. in fact, all of the symptoms have gone away, the issue lies with the AME/FAA having a pathway for documented vaccine induced symptoms VS long Covid. The entire point of this thread was to warn others who have long Covid and or vaccine issues, that to be careful how they're presented. |
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Msg ID:
2744282 |
No medical for me +1/-3
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Author:listen you idiot
9/26/2022 2:56:00 PM
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a loss of consciousness is disqaulifying for one year for any class of medical, whether it's the vaccine or whatever. |
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Msg ID:
2744287 |
No medical for me +0/-0
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Author:says he’s not trying to get a medical
9/26/2022 3:34:42 PM
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oh no, wouldn't be that irresponsible
Op: "Just got deferred and subsequent denial due to a mild reaction from vaccine." |
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Msg ID:
2744306 |
No medical for me +1/-1
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Author:more of his "mild" reaction
9/26/2022 6:44:45 PM
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says it's a "joke" that the FAA won't let him fly.
"after second dose I was out of work for about 2 weeks due to the reaction. Again, severe heart pain, and neurological issues. ER, @ Vanderbilt found nothing wrong other than a severe high d Dimer / blood clotting test."
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Msg ID:
2744412 |
No medical for me +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
9/27/2022 9:17:45 PM
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Poor martyr baby OP |
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Msg ID:
2744433 |
No medical for me +0/-0
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Author:Nothing Ever Happens Until It
9/28/2022 7:59:53 AM
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Happens to you. |
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