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Msg ID: 2742490 been flying commercial for 20 years +0/-4     
Author:masta says i need atp
9/15/2022 7:18:10 PM

So here we go. 

 

Do they still ask airspace questions on the checkride??? I only operate class G or E, whatever. I don't talk to tower because I fly utility. Old school.

Systems-wise whats the beef? Just learn the lights and good to go right? Land ASAP or Practical. Whats the game, there isn't a need to understand wet sump vs dry sump etc. etc. etc. etc. 

Do I need to go get in a tin can Robinson or whaat do you guys thinK? Bell 206 might be similar priced huh?



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Msg ID: 2742493 been flying commercial for 20 years +15/-0     
Author:I think if you’re boss demands
9/15/2022 7:36:49 PM

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an ATP but doesn't provide an aircraft to do it in, he probably is trying to run you off.



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Msg ID: 2742496 been flying commercial for 20 years +5/-0     
Author:Bell47G2
9/15/2022 8:07:00 PM

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I did mine in a Bell47 G2. Easy helicopter systems and some approaches in VFR conditions. Look for a company that speacialises in 5 day ATPH. Start with the the FAA ATP H written test, then you will know what you need to cover. 



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Msg ID: 2742497 been flying commercial for 20 years +0/-5     
Author:No
9/15/2022 8:08:56 PM

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Utility company is going to demand you have an ATP.....ever...



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Msg ID: 2742555 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-2     
Author:Utility guy
9/16/2022 5:53:14 PM

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Power companies might.

they are run by people that care more about your email signitire than your skills.



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Msg ID: 2742557 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-2     
Author:Sig Nature, Not Sig Nitire. Like
9/16/2022 6:22:12 PM

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The national FBO.



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Msg ID: 2742500 been flying commercial for 20 years +3/-2     
Author:troll
9/15/2022 9:16:47 PM

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go awat troll 



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Msg ID: 2742503 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-2     
Author:op
9/15/2022 9:42:35 PM

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you little rat



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Msg ID: 2742515 been flying commercial for 20 years +0/-5     
Author:Actually utility
9/16/2022 12:21:30 AM

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First, you’re a troll! Otherwise you’re an azzz! Seems a lot of ‘other’ flyers think we utility flyers are dirty coveralls hicks just barely a step from tractor drivers.
We all can navigate the airspaces, know weather minimums, can often interpret FAR’s from memory. It’s just different than corporate or HAA.

Can you write a congested area plan to lift a 3000 pound air conditioner from the street to a 25 story building in downtown Dallas?

On the other hand I have no idea how to do an instrument approach to a hospital rooftop.


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Msg ID: 2742520 been flying commercial for 20 years +4/-0     
Author:NoMo
9/16/2022 6:49:37 AM

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It's one speciality vs another, using the same type of equipment.  Commercial or ATP?  Depends on the job requirement, and there's always the insurance companies demanding higher standards or higher premiums.  Over the years I've learned to admit I know nothing about something, rather than everything about nothing.



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Msg ID: 2742561 been flying commercial for 20 years +4/-3     
Author:an instrument approach to a
9/16/2022 10:37:25 PM

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rooftop is no different from one to a 12000 ft runway....you fly the approach to the MAP and then proceed visually or execute the missed.



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Msg ID: 2742568 been flying commercial for 20 years +0/-1     
Author:Rooftop or runway
9/17/2022 8:34:39 AM

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Not the same. Special training required for hospital approach. Some as slow as 70kts and steep with additional requirements depending on surroundings.

Now... out in the sticks an approach to a rooftop pad perched high may be similar to a runway, but not in the middle of the city.



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Msg ID: 2742569 been flying commercial for 20 years +0/-2     
Author:Smart Donkey
9/17/2022 8:35:53 AM

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Unless it's notated proceed VFR or conduct the specified missed approach  ;-)



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Msg ID: 2742584 been flying commercial for 20 years +5/-1     
Author:exactly the same...
9/17/2022 2:20:56 PM

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you fly the procedure and then proceed visually or execute the missed. 

Airspeed is just a number, you don't need special training to hold 70 kts. 

Center the needles and hit the numbers,  it's not a lunar landing.



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Msg ID: 2742598 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-3     
Author:I love
9/17/2022 6:20:32 PM

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How all the IFR guys are trying to justify their training, when is redneck utility hicks would fly circles around them any day of the week.



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Msg ID: 2742607 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-1     
Author:not in the
9/17/2022 6:56:46 PM

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weather they wont. so different you can't imagine bro



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Msg ID: 2742630 yeah bro, you're an astronaut, (NT) +0/-2     
Author:I'm impressed bro
9/17/2022 9:35:02 PM

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Msg ID: 2742638 yeah bro, you're an astronaut, (NT) +1/-1     
Author:You Are Sis, sis.
9/17/2022 10:03:07 PM

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Msg ID: 2742673 been flying commercial for 20 years +0/-2     
Author:say wut
9/18/2022 10:56:40 AM

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not sure any pilot has to justify being trained to fly IFR lol



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Msg ID: 2742619 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-1     
Author:There
9/17/2022 8:34:06 PM

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is no game.  Know your job.  It's all a standards insurance con, but is what it is.



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Msg ID: 2742920 been flying commercial for 20 years +1/-0     
Author:20
9/20/2022 6:55:06 PM

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years?  Is that all?  Still a junior-junior pilot.



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