AMC pilot in hospital

Ok so it wasn't an HAA/EMS helicopter? A AMC pilot doing something else with another company? What is a B407 doing at 10,000' on the hottest day of the year?

No medical crew on board. Pilot taken to hospital. No other information will be released by AMC.

It was a HAA PR flight.

It wasn't at 10000'

just 2 recently and now this....and others throughout the year....Not very good start to them...

Here is my guess, based on flying in that area for years. LACFD states the aircraft went down near Baldy and Glendora roads. Hard landing.  There is a helicopter LZ at Cow Canyon Saddle, in that general area. Used by fire/police all the time.  Good place to do a PR.  Big enough for a Type 2 medium, so a 407 can use it no problem. LZ around 4500', if memory serves me. Morning temperature maybe 70 degrees? That puts the DA at 6500+. Winds, if they existed, can be tricky, swirling because the LZ is on a saddle. No wind? Now you need more power at the end of the approach. If this indeed was the area the pilot tried to land at under those conditions, that a tough demand for a 407. If this wasn't the area, who knows why it crashed, other than not enough power to arrest the rate of descent. Glad the pilot wasn't seriously injured.

Note to AMC management-the aircraft you use to cover the high desert have no business conducting scene calls in mountainous terrain, especially in the summer months. 

What was the track? Last one I found was Loma Linda back to Hesperia.  

4500/6500 is not high altitude for a 407. A 206 maybe if you're not careful but this altitude is not enough to start speculating.

On what planet is landing a 407 at 6500' da, especially one that's lightly loaded, a "tough demand". 

After you've explained to AMC how they're using the wrong aircraft, you might want to call AZ DPS and tell them that they have no business flying 407's in the mountains.

Be the appropriate aircraft you suggest?

Lightly loaded.  Hell lots of HEMS bases in AZ using them at higher altitude To include flagstaff which sits at 7000 MSL elevation and with the temps like today it is DA at 9500 and they operate 407 and AZ DPS. 

well, a B3 astar or a 407 HP for starters

Here goes another Old Guy story...

Back in 1960, a guy named Link Luckitt landed his Hiller 12E at over 17000 ft while

rescueing climbers on Mt McKinley. Sixty five hundred feet DA too much for a407?

You kids crack me up,

Another Old Guy

PS  Look it up

Back in my day! 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Back the helicopter pilots knew how to fly and they knew their machines.

Become a mentor and pass along your wealth of knowledge. 

That?

We try to pass on our knowledge but you younger guys just don't seem to want to listen.  I'm not going to trade knowledge for ridicule !

Experience and wisdom with them? They know it all.

Not to mention the mountain flying done with the Bell 206 "back in the Day". Seismic, heli-skiing, USFS, etc. I've made countless takeoffs and landings above 10,000 in fully-loaded 206Bs. Kids nowadays.... 

BTW....AZ DPS and Guardian do not fly HP....

An AMC program in AZ flys HP and Air Life Denver.

Guardian has three HPs, and the long-range plan is to convert the rest of the fleet to HPs as well.

Pilot was alone on a PR flight. Flightaware shows activity for the ac N687AM beginning at 06:12 AM with a few flights and maneuvers before the helicopter crashed. It could have been a weight issue (for not taking crew) because of the intense heatwave and potential winds but no info was released about the reasoning for the pilot to go alone.

Did the pilot review the performance charts in the RFM?

Was the aircraft a 407GX? The Garmin 1000 will tell you if you have sufficient power to operate at certain altitudes if the correct data is input into the Garmin.

you must mean the height velocity chart. don't know what the garmin tells you bro

It could have operated light on fuel due to heat and altitude Ran out of fuel. 

no  way

It does not matter is he was military or civilian.  What matters is that we are making less and less good pilots with bad skills and worse decision making.

Just look at the lack of training, and pilots not asking for more.  Starting in aircraft they do not under stand.

Look at the accidents over the last ten years in HAA.

We are not finding new ways to crash, but we are crashing more due to a lack of a lot of things.

they are going down so I guess the rest of your post is pretty much nonsense bro

Hay Bro... love that respect in the post bro.

Look at the trends, how many have we has this year, it starts slow then ramps up.

Mark my words, you will see more not less.

Experience is a harsh teacher bro.

experience is a harsh teacher lol what is that even supposed to mean. experience should tell you to look at the last 10 years, not the last 10 minutes

...bare bones "Legacy" model would be a good description.