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Msg ID: 2737097 123.025 helicopter air to air +6/-1     
Author:What Freq?
7/28/2022 3:00:20 PM

It seems alot of hospitals use a frequency other than 123.025 for inbound/outbound traffic to their helipads. With only two radios I can be up approach/tower and one other frequency. While taking off from a hospital I had a near miss with another helicopter transitioning the area on 123.025. I was up tower and 123.05 which was the helipd freq and expected for outbound helicopters as another helicopter was inboud to the same pad. I think it would be smart for all helicopters in one area to use the same frequency?

Msg ID: 2737098 123.025 helicopter air to air (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Progressive 123.45 Deers
7/28/2022 3:08:45 PM

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Msg ID: 2737099 123.025 helicopter air to air (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Deerslayer 30.30 HF
7/28/2022 3:09:23 PM

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Msg ID: 2737106 123.025 helicopter air to air (NT) +0/-1     
Author:what's your solution?
7/28/2022 3:40:02 PM

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Msg ID: 2737111 He gave it in his post: use 123.025! (NT) +1/-1     
7/28/2022 4:34:38 PM

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Msg ID: 2737109 Some hospitals are Prima Donna’s and inappropriately use +11/-1     
Author:their UNICOM as flight following
7/28/2022 4:29:41 PM

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And because of that, they want THEIR aircraft up their Unicom instead of 123.025 (the universal helicopter air to air) making them awkward and cumbersome.  They shouldn't be using their Unicom as a flight following frequenc or boosting their Unicom freq's wattage to interfere with unicoms elsewhere, but they do.  And, when you make traffic advisory calls, they shouldn't be answering as if they are a flippin control tower ("Air jam 1, no traffic other traffic inbound, you cleared to land")

Stop answering me when I make an advisory call!

Msg ID: 2737120 And Tower didn't say anything? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Were they operating?
7/28/2022 6:29:07 PM

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Msg ID: 2737137 123.025 helicopter air to air +0/-3     
Author:you expected wrong
7/28/2022 9:13:59 PM

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the other helicopter was transitioning and was probably monitoring 123.02. you should have been also after you took off. don't overthink it. 

Msg ID: 2737150 123.025 helicopter air to air +2/-0     
Author:Try one two
7/28/2022 9:39:05 PM

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Tree Fiddy!!!!!!!!!!!

Msg ID: 2737161 123.025 helicopter air to air +0/-0     
Author:Please use 123.025
7/29/2022 2:07:29 AM

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123.025 for air to air. 123.05 is common for pilot controlled helipad lighting, so click and switch back.

Msg ID: 2737223 123.025 helicopter air to air +4/-1     
Author:My base
7/29/2022 12:11:25 PM

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The problem around my base is we have a lot of ag aircraft and they LOVE to use 123.025 as their coordinating with the fuel/loading truck. It get's really ridiclous sometimes. We normally have to ask them to move to an appropreate A2G freq and they usually respond with some sort of a $$ hole comment about how they own the air and they are doing production work blah blah... "Hospital traffic, EMS1 inbound from the South 10min Eta... EMS1, HELI25, we are also 10mins out to the West, HEY STEVE! I'VE GOT 1/2 LOAD LEFT THEN I'LL COME BACK FOR MY BORRITO..... Okay Heli25 I'm going... OKAY GARRETT, I'VE GOT YOUR BORRITO, HOW'S THAT FIELD COMING? YOU PLANNING ON GOING TO THE JOHNSON PLACE NEXT? YEAH STEVE! I'LL MOVE THE THE JOHNSON PLACE, I'VE GOT A MASSIVE WEDGIE GOING ON HERE, I HATE THIS FIELD, IT'S GOT THIS TREE IN THE MIDDLE THAT REALLY THROWS MY.....

You get the picture.

Msg ID: 2737227 123.025 helicopter air to air +0/-2     
Author:yeah but is it a problem or
7/29/2022 12:44:17 PM

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just irritating to you. I can't imagine how that could possibly be a problem in what sounds like a rural area. they are talking on the appropriate frequency. just not being professional about it. yawn, quit whining.

Msg ID: 2737230 Some people think they're the main character +0/-0     
Author:Some people use radios responsibly
7/29/2022 1:19:44 PM

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Sorry you're surrounded by jackwagons.

Msg ID: 2737304 At least you know where they are and what they’re doing! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Information is power….
7/30/2022 2:25:48 AM

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Msg ID: 2737481 At least you know where they are and what they’re doing! +0/-0     
Author:My Base
7/31/2022 11:27:35 PM

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That's the problem, we don't know where they are. And by them interfering on a A2A frequency we can not coordinate with the other inbound or outbound aircraft because Steve needs his lunch. It is a problem.

Msg ID: 2737252 123.025 helicopter air to air +0/-0     
7/29/2022 3:40:16 PM

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Remember the EMS mid-air at Flagstaff, AZ.

Msg ID: 2737297 123.025 helicopter air to air +0/-1     
7/29/2022 11:39:22 PM

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Use AM for talking to ATC,  FM for dispatch and air to air.

Msg ID: 2737301 are you a pilot? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:jjst curious.
7/30/2022 1:27:01 AM

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Msg ID: 2737315 121.5 works for helicopter air to air (NT) +0/-1     
Author:Maybe so
7/30/2022 8:02:00 AM

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Msg ID: 2737338 121.5 works for helicopter air to air +0/-1     
Author:Don’t Use VHF Guard. That’s Air
7/30/2022 10:27:17 AM

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Force common. That's where they conduct all their briefings, flights, and debriefs.

Msg ID: 2737363 123.025 helicopter air to air +0/-0     
7/30/2022 3:46:41 PM

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123.025 is for Helicopter Air-to-Air: AC90-50D.PDF (

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