Rotax had a 47 go down today in Idaho on a fire 

pray for the crew and everyone involved 

Is that accurate info, or hearsay? 

It's accurate. 

Yeah. Just saw the photo. Survivors?

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2022/07/helicopter-fighting-moose-fire-crashes-into-salmon-river/

Seems like a really strange accident. Not knowing the details. Right side up, bucket still in dip spot, line attatched. near vertical impact. strange way for a 47 to crash. This thing came down hard for that to be fatal. Will be interesting to see since Columbia just built that thing not long ago. RIP

Does anyone have a link to a picture? I have googled everything I can think of and can't find a pic.

Dang tough.  Prayers for all

That is terrifying.  RIP.

Bucket snag?  Something made them come down really hard. 

much about the CH47, BUT I have seen imagines of  them lifting some serious loads. You think a bucket snag could take it down??? Defiantly strange accident from initial view point. RIP!!!!!

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2022/07/pilots-killed-in-salmon-river-helicopter-crash/

Same pic but zoomed more.

If the combing gear box failed and the blades become out of sync, would it hold together to the ground like that?

ROTAK released the names in a press release today. We lost a good one today boys. Rest In Peace Brothers. 

Chinooks don't settle with power, ever.

Like to know as the way that thing is sitting in the photos. Seems very very odd. 

Those blades do t seem very beat up... fuel exhaustion?

So all the twins I have ever flown in my life have differing sized tanks or supply tanks to each engine so you don't lose both engines at the same time. Is the CH47 the same way?

Pretty accurate by watching the few clips of it working I saw on the news. Bucket all over the place,  aircraft in dip looking like it's dancing. I'm gonna say something to do with the line / bucket / wind, and or complete fuel starve. Doesn't matter if you have 20+ years in the military, flying a line with a 20,000 lb load on a windy day in that area is no joke.

of course the ntsb needs to do their work but at first glance very possibly an issue with the 

flying of the bambi.

In the civilian world do they carry a crew chief or a three man crew when fighting fire ? Just curious.  RIP. 

Depends on the type certificate configuration. Some do, most don't. I think helimax runs with 3 all the time and occasionally see the tanked guys running with 3. 

Lots of speculation here, but not a lot of facts....I have only seen one photo (and is is not very clear) of the wreakage. From that photo, it would appear that the aircraft descended vertically, rapidly, with very low rotor rpm.

Why do I think that? In February of 1971 my crew and I survived a combining transmission failure in a CH-47B. After descending vertically through 200 ft of double canopy jungle we hit the forest floor at an estimated 2000 fpm. 
Before the wreakage burned (it was on fire on the way down) it looked very similar to this one. The double canopy jungle most likely was our saving grace.

That being said, let the NTSB sort it out and show respect for our fellow aviators....RIP

lol Lots more speculation. Back in Nam....

Bambi bucket(by itself) didn't bring down the Chinook?

Possibly dipping cross-current and getting the aircraft into a non-recoverable out of CG condition?

What in the fark is "dipping cross current?" Never heard of her.

They have no clue what they're talking about....cross current....lol please, go back to your bunk and take a nap.