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Msg ID: 2736060 HAA - GMR’s incentives +8/-3     
Author:May want to ensure long-term
7/18/2022 8:59:09 AM

GMR's significant bumps in pay are mainly through incentives not salaries. Incentives are easily turned off after a market correction. Enjoy them whilst they are there. I feel keeping an eye on the no surprises act status is a good idea and perhaps more import to consider when making career moves. GMR's, and other HAA subscription based programs, are in jeopardy. They will, more than likely, be unable to sustain the pilot and mechanic pay increases when the act passes. Nobody knows the final outcome as the act is still in play. As a fellow HAA pilot, I am concerned that the company I work for has a business model that will survive the act's fallout. The HAA industry is overly saturated. The majority of revenue comes from insurance providers and Medicaid. Subscription based HAA business models, like GMR's, will be in trouble...goodbye incentives. 

Interesting: GMR's response to the  No Surprises Act

https://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoDownloadDocument?pubId=&eodoc=true&documentID=73592

 



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Msg ID: 2736063 HAA - GMR’s incentives +4/-0     
Author:I don't know Bro!!
7/18/2022 9:22:23 AM

Reply to: 2736060

Ive been in this business since the mid 80s when a 206 transport was around $600.00, now they're over 60K and not going down, I didnt think this business would have lasted 20 years, I thought the insurance companies would have pulled the plug, but who am I?  But we're not at that point I guess to put a price on a human life, but im retring in 2 yerars, Good Luck!! 



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Msg ID: 2736069 Bonus aside. The 14% pay raise and 82K-90k starting are great incentives (NT) +9/-0     
Author:Nice try AMC manager
7/18/2022 10:10:01 AM

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Msg ID: 2736095 Bonus aside. The 14% pay raise and 82K-90k starting are great incentives +1/-1     
Author:27 years with AMC
7/18/2022 1:19:57 PM

Reply to: 2736069

My base pay is $107,450.  

Now new guys are getting $100k?  

Guess I could move on over to Medtrans.



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Msg ID: 2736222 Bonus aside. The 14% pay raise and 82K-90k starting are great incentives +1/-0     
Author:WOW
7/19/2022 11:50:54 AM

Reply to: 2736095

Seriously? That really sucks!!!



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Msg ID: 2736406 Bonus aside. The 14% pay raise and 82K-90k starting are great incentives +0/-0     
Author:Sucks
7/21/2022 7:00:47 PM

Reply to: 2736095

Nothing but sucks.



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Msg ID: 2736138 Bonus aside. The 14% pay raise and 82K-90k starting are great incentives +0/-0     
Author:11%
7/18/2022 7:48:37 PM

Reply to: 2736069

Not 14%. If it's that impressive of a number, it shouldn't require you including the longstanding annual 3% that was coming anyway.



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Msg ID: 2736074 HAA - GMR’s incentives +3/-1     
Author:Not sure your
7/18/2022 10:34:01 AM

Reply to: 2736060

little buddy feeding you info is treating you right. 14% increase in base pay isn't a temporary incentive son.  Now give your stick pony a giddyup and see what your union is offering.



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Msg ID: 2736085 HAA - GMR’s incentives +1/-2     
Author:Giddeee-up
7/18/2022 11:08:54 AM

Reply to: 2736074

True. The 14% is not an incentive but brings their lagging pay up to the rest of the industry. The rest however, such as the 40k retention, 15k sign on, 5k IFR, geomods, housing etc...those are. 



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Msg ID: 2736137 HAA - GMR’s incentives +0/-0     
Author:11%
7/18/2022 7:47:38 PM

Reply to: 2736074

Not 14%. If it's that impressive of a number, it shouldn't require you including the longstanding 3% that was coming anyway.



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Msg ID: 2736107 HAA - GMR’s incentives +0/-0     
Author:PHI HAS THOSE SUBSCRIPTIONS
7/18/2022 3:00:17 PM

Reply to: 2736060

as well or called "memberships".....not sure how they survive that besides colelcting enough to offset the balance on others....like AEL does



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Msg ID: 2736120 HAA - GMR’s incentives +4/-0     
Author:You’re not aware
7/18/2022 4:20:36 PM

Reply to: 2736060

The suprise bill act was already made into law and went into effect January 1st this year.

As for your other BS comment. GMR gave an average 11% pay increase.  That sound like salary to me.

Stop trying to stir the pot. 



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Msg ID: 2736154 HAA - GMR’s incentives +0/-0     
Author:In the know
7/18/2022 10:32:35 PM

Reply to: 2736120

The vast majority of increases were in fact double digit when you look at your previous years vs this years compensation. Retention bonus aside, the salary increases were quite healthy. 



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Msg ID: 2736164 HAA - GMR’s incentives +2/-2     
Author:Everyone knows that the vast
7/19/2022 5:02:02 AM

Reply to: 2736060

majority of HAA flights are not emergent or medically necessary.  The oversaturation of the HAA industry has caused hospitals and EMS to be totally spoiled out of convenience.  Hospitals want the 85 year-old with ingrown toe nails out of the ER yesterday and EMS outfits see HAA as an augment to not having to drive somewhere i.e. leave the county to a facility or more appropriate one.  HAA outfits are like circling vultures.  It is an "If we don't fly it, someone else will" mentality. 



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Msg ID: 2736199 HAA - GMR’s incentives +0/-0     
Author:Yeah yeah yeah
7/19/2022 9:31:00 AM

Reply to: 2736164

Robber barons, railroad tycoons, union thugs, police brutality/not showing up in time, lawyers...and on and on.

Every industry has been characterized as "vultures" in one form or another.  Yawn.



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Msg ID: 2736279 HAA - GMR’s incentives +0/-0     
Author:You don’t know what the word
7/20/2022 6:27:36 AM

Reply to: 2736164

emergent means



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Msg ID: 2736294 HAA - GMR’s incentives +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
7/20/2022 12:20:51 PM

Reply to: 2736279

that's like your thing, isn't it? patrolling JH, patiently waiting to pounce on emergent. what a life.



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