Msg ID:
2735020 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS +9/-0
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Author:TO PILOTS but refuses to do so
7/8/2022 7:13:33 PM
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Management decided to pay an inflation bonus to everyone but the pilots and seems to be blaming the union, but the bonus is not subject to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, therefore CAN BE PAID. Just as they are paying $250+ incentives per shift for workover, they are allowed to pay the bonuses. THIS IS ON AMC MANAGEMENT!
Legal citation: https://casetext.com/case/air-line-pilots-assn-intl-v-mesa-airlines-inc |
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Msg ID:
2735021 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS +3/-0
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Author:TRUE! Management sucks.
7/8/2022 7:16:35 PM
Reply to: 2735020
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Legally, it's considered "minor" for the purposes of the CBA so the company cannot be sued, but must go through arbitration.
And yes, AMC management is acting in bad faith to screw over the pilots. |
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Msg ID:
2735023 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS +2/-0
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Author:why are
7/8/2022 7:29:49 PM
Reply to: 2735021
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you even talking about this crap?? AMC $ucks JUST leave them already !!! WT Hell man? Unreal!!!! I degress!! So glad I left after < 6 months on MY terms!! Feel sorry for those who 'Had/Have " to stay!! BUT not those who chose to stay,yet keep whining about it!! |
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Msg ID:
2735057 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS +0/-1
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Author:You know why?
7/8/2022 10:26:04 PM
Reply to: 2735023
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Because dues gets paid out to the union and they're getting very little for the price. |
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Msg ID:
2735026 |
Depends. Since you are in MAJOR disputes, BONUSES can be considered a +1/-1
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Author:BAD FAITH tactic, breaching STATUS QUO
7/8/2022 7:34:16 PM
Reply to: 2735021
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But, of course, if it is actually a "minor" matter, you can file a grievance and take it to the SBA. |
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Msg ID:
2735053 |
Bonuses are considered "MINOR" in every legal case +1/-0
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Author:AMC should pay up!
7/8/2022 9:55:53 PM
Reply to: 2735026
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See: https://www.casemine.com/judgement/us/5914ebadadd7b049349432d1
Etc. |
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Msg ID:
2735072 |
What's this got to do with STATUS QUO during Section 6? +1/-0
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Author:This was inre: one pilot's GRIEVANCE
7/8/2022 11:01:50 PM
Reply to: 2735053
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if you think AMC should pay up as this is a minor issue, that is a grievance and is handled with the grievance procedure, still in effect since this CBA is in STATUS QUO.
File a grievance. |
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Msg ID:
2735024 |
"Status Quo" only applies to issues in the CBA +2/-0
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Author:Bonuses are outside of the CBA
7/8/2022 7:30:14 PM
Reply to: 2735020
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Management can pay the bonus but is playing hardball |
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Msg ID:
2735073 |
The CBA doesn't demand bonuses! Company only obligated to FOLLOW +0/-1
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Author:CBA during STATUS QUO.
7/8/2022 11:04:38 PM
Reply to: 2735024
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Offering you money outside the CBA is akin to bribery, which viloates the spirit of STATUS QUO
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Msg ID:
2735025 |
They (you) are in NEGOTIATIONS, which means STATUS QUO (NT) +0/-3
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Author:which means no NEW anything!
7/8/2022 7:32:11 PM
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Msg ID:
2735027 |
Still wrong (NT) +1/-0
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Author:Again
7/8/2022 7:34:41 PM
Reply to: 2735025
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Msg ID:
2735039 |
Who's holding the bag of rocks? (NT) +0/-0
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Author:You or the company?
7/8/2022 8:55:59 PM
Reply to: 2735027
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Msg ID:
2735103 |
The Company. But that company is GMR! (NT) +0/-0
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Author:AMC off the grid
7/9/2022 7:06:29 AM
Reply to: 2735039
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Msg ID:
2735054 |
They (you) are in NEGOTIATIONS, which means STATUS QUO +0/-0
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Author:CITATION PLEASE.
7/8/2022 9:58:11 PM
Reply to: 2735025
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Other caselaw posted on this thread shows otherwise |
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Msg ID:
2735302 |
RAILWAY LABOR ACT §156 +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
7/10/2022 11:38:12 PM
Reply to: 2735054
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§156. Procedure in changing rates of pay, rules, and working conditions
Carriers and representatives of the employees shall give at least thirty days' written notice of an intended change in agreements affecting rates of pay, rules, or working conditions, and the time and place for the beginning of conference between the representatives of the parties interested in such intended changes shall be agreed upon within ten days after the receipt of said notice, and said time shall be within the thirty days provided in the notice. In every case where such notice of intended change has been given, or conferences are being held with reference thereto, or the services of the Mediation Board have been requested by either party, or said Board has proffered its services, rates of pay, rules, or working conditions shall not be altered by the carrier until the controversy has been finally acted upon, as required by section 155 of this title, by the Mediation Board, unless a period of ten days has elapsed after termination of conferences without request for or proffer of the services of the Mediation Board. |
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Msg ID:
2735303 |
you haven't posted any case law on other threads stating otherwise! (NT) +0/-0
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Author:None!
7/10/2022 11:43:17 PM
Reply to: 2735054
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Msg ID:
2735030 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS +0/-0
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Author:P Hi
7/8/2022 7:46:00 PM
Reply to: 2735020
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If this gets your panties wadded up, try working for Pee Hi, A couple of years without a raise then a 2.6% "bone" thrown our way. Now we're only 16% behind. |
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Msg ID:
2735047 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS (NT) +0/-0
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Author:I’m
7/8/2022 9:38:23 PM
Reply to: 2735030
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Msg ID:
2735050 |
AMC Management CAN PAY INFLATION BONUS +1/-0
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Author:I’m curious
7/8/2022 9:39:20 PM
Reply to: 2735030
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I'm curious in the CEOs weekly letter she puts out she tries to come across as a good person but by them doing this to the pilots any faith or trust the pilots have a management is completely out the door. I'm curious if she even addresses this but she probably won't. Management playing hardball because we're up for negotiation it's basically a tactic to show who controls our paychecks |
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