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Msg ID: 2734133 Want to get management's attention about pay? +6/-4     
Author:Anonymous
6/30/2022 4:10:34 PM

Get a LinkedIn profile set up then click on the "Open to Work" button where all hiring managers can see you (you can still stay private to the masses if you don't want to connect with the world),

When they see who all are really looking for other work they may take things seriously.

You'd be surprised at the amount of jobs that want former aviators on LinkedIn.  You may not fit 10-15% of the description/experience they're looking for but you'd be surprised. 

It's WAY easier to vote with your feet and find something with better pay and/or schedule than you probably think!

 



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Msg ID: 2734137 Want to get management's attention about pay? +8/-2     
Author:the truth can hurt sometimes
6/30/2022 5:12:41 PM

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When they see who all are really looking for other work they may take things seriously.

They will seriously put your name on that list when there is a reduction in force planning session. If you don't like where you are, just leave. You are not so important that your spot can't be filled. It was open when you took the job. No need to make a production out of it. 

 



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Msg ID: 2734149 That's right! If you raise your standards by leaving, (NT) +5/-1     
Author:they'll lower theirs to replace you.
6/30/2022 9:09:44 PM

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Msg ID: 2734180 That's right! If you raise your standards by leaving, +1/-1     
Author:Anonymous
7/1/2022 9:09:48 AM

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No different than in any other business in today's world. 



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Msg ID: 2734218 Want to get management's attention about pay? +0/-0     
Author:Providing
7/1/2022 9:29:53 PM

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the union doesn't get involved.  Bit different then, but your apprehension has proven true in past.



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Msg ID: 2734138 Want to get management's attention about pay? +5/-2     
Author:Management
6/30/2022 5:44:54 PM

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We don’t care and we don’t troll LinkiedIn or get nervous when people leave.


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Msg ID: 2734148 There are only two reasons you work where you do. +0/-3     
Author:Anonymous
6/30/2022 8:18:08 PM

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1. You can't find a better job.

2. They can't find a cheaper prospect.

If you can find a better job, go. When the market turns, and cheaper prospects abound, you will not get the same level of loyalty.



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Msg ID: 2734152 Want to get management's attention about pay? +6/-1     
Author:Kinda
6/30/2022 10:27:07 PM

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hanging it out by doing that but I get the sentiment.

My son who is a VP with a large engineering firm says he labor market is the tightest he has seen it in over thirty years; says almost all companies are working at 90% capacity or higher due to labor shortages.

Moral of the story the OP mentions you might be surprised about similar parallel skill jobs you may fit quite comfortably within and from what I hear that is very plausible.

Good luck.



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Msg ID: 2734240 Want to get management's attention about pay? +0/-0     
Author:Not
7/2/2022 8:49:49 AM

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that potential workers don't exist but that during the pandemic a lot of them learned how to live and enjoy life with a whole lot less and are not interested in corporate America any more.



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Msg ID: 2734156 I can find a better paying job, but then I'd have to actually work (NT) +2/-2     
Author:Anonymous
6/30/2022 11:08:30 PM

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Msg ID: 2734163 I can find a better paying job, but then I'd have to actually work +0/-2     
Author:If
7/1/2022 6:31:02 AM

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ya like what ur doing the word 'work' is far less relevant.



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Msg ID: 2734166 I can find a better paying job, but then I'd have to actually work +0/-1     
Author:If
7/1/2022 6:46:09 AM

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ya like what ur doing the word 'work' is far less relevant.



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Msg ID: 2734172 Want to get management's attention about pay? +0/-6     
Author:Absolutely no managers are
7/1/2022 8:25:14 AM

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doing this on Linked In. Stop kidding yourself. We are too busy trying to keep you clowns from doing dumb things.



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Msg ID: 2734179 Want to get management's attention about pay? +1/-1     
Author:HR watcher
7/1/2022 9:08:33 AM

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You don't have to tell us any further you know nothing about HR. You post says it all. 



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Msg ID: 2734188 Want to get management's attention about pay? +3/-1     
Author:So
7/1/2022 10:12:26 AM

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you come on here BUT don't look at LinkedIn? Yeah sure you're a Mgr!!!



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Msg ID: 2734206 In this business, the LAST thing I want to do is get management's (NT) +1/-0     
Author:attention!!
7/1/2022 3:18:06 PM

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Msg ID: 2734219 In this business, the LAST thing I want to do is get management's  +0/-0     
Author:Usually
7/1/2022 9:30:44 PM

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worthwhile advice.



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