Msg ID:
2733066 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +21/-2
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Author:Burst your bubble
6/20/2022 2:57:04 PM
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Basically, just like stolen valor. Posers.
FAR 1.1 Definitions----->
Flightcrew member means a pilot, flight engineer, or flight navigator assigned to duty in an aircraft during flight time.
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Msg ID:
2733070 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +3/-4
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Author:You idiot
6/20/2022 3:19:30 PM
Reply to: 2733066
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See your GOM for company defination. |
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Msg ID:
2733072 |
Company deifications? (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Anonymous
6/20/2022 3:26:54 PM
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Msg ID:
2733073 |
DEF-Jam-Nations (NT) +0/-1
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Author:Anonymous
6/20/2022 3:28:14 PM
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Msg ID:
2733074 |
Defecations (NT) +0/-1
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Author:Anonymous
6/20/2022 3:29:09 PM
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Msg ID:
2733078 |
Who cares +1/-1
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Author:We know
6/20/2022 4:22:08 PM
Reply to: 2733074
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They are worthless self loading baggage. |
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Msg ID:
2733801 |
Who cares +0/-0
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Author:Now
6/26/2022 9:24:17 PM
Reply to: 2733078
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if they'd just act like baggage!! |
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Msg ID:
2733086 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +1/-7
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Author:Far part 135 captain
6/20/2022 4:43:30 PM
Reply to: 2733070
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Who does the final walk around before you take off on a HAA flight. Who disconnects the APU, briefs passengers/patients and helps with radio calls when designated by the FAR part 135 captain. When is the last time a United or Americal Airlines captain assigned those duties to you on a commercial flight. I'm guessing he didn't because you were self loading baggage. Look in your GOM. Far part 1 does not cut it for this argument. |
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Msg ID:
2733092 |
FAR Part 1 is all that cuts it in this argument. (NT) +2/-1
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Author:Facts matter.
6/20/2022 5:15:02 PM
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Msg ID:
2733094 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +4/-1
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Author:Ground crew
6/20/2022 5:26:49 PM
Reply to: 2733086
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United captain has the ground crew do the final walk around and disconnect the APU. |
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Msg ID:
2733095 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +2/-1
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Author:Flight attendant
6/20/2022 5:31:34 PM
Reply to: 2733094
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Flight Attendants make radio calls to operations and brief passengers. Not flight crew either. |
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Msg ID:
2733098 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +2/-1
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Author:passengers are
6/20/2022 5:36:08 PM
Reply to: 2733086
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regularly assigned the duty of operating the emergency exits. |
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Msg ID:
2733105 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +1/-1
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Author:OooHHH
6/20/2022 5:52:59 PM
Reply to: 2733098
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That smarts....lol so true |
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Msg ID:
2733110 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +1/-1
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Author:Hmmmm
6/20/2022 6:05:05 PM
Reply to: 2733105
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If your GOM allows self loading baggage to be considered flight crew the Feds have seen it and consider it to be okay. There isn't a whole lot of a GOM that requires FAA certification. Everything else your company's policy. Again the Feds have seen it and are okay with it. |
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Msg ID:
2733140 |
It calls them crewmembers, not flight crews! (NT) +2/-0
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Author:Medical crewmembers!
6/20/2022 8:21:31 PM
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Msg ID:
2733191 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches (NT) +0/-0
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Author:you in an exit row?
6/21/2022 4:30:27 AM
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Msg ID:
2733192 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +2/-1
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Author:annon
6/21/2022 5:27:56 AM
Reply to: 2733086
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When the "135 Captain" asks "tail clear left?" and you don't even bother looking and just answer yes and the A/C hits the tree, who gets in trouble?
Untill they get a certificate or something that can be pulled by the FAA they are customers.
When was the last time you flew on Delta and the "121 Captain" asked you a question?
It's just the FAA/operators stroking the customers ego. |
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Msg ID:
2733437 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +1/-0
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Author:Never going back.
6/23/2022 11:25:56 AM
Reply to: 2733086
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The pilot should be doing all of those things. Med crew are passengers. If your company does it any other way, they have a flawed safety culture and a peverted interpretation of rules and laws. Usually this all happens when the medical side of the house bitches the loudest. I'll only work for aviation companies that fly medical patients, not medical companies that use helicopters. |
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Msg ID:
2733470 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +0/-0
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Author:Company
6/23/2022 4:07:50 PM
Reply to: 2733070
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definition cannot preempt FARs unless released to do so by FAA Legal in DC. Don't fall in to the idea a FSDO can do that, they can't. |
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Msg ID:
2733111 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +0/-0
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Author:Leave them alone. It’s good for their IG
6/20/2022 6:20:35 PM
Reply to: 2733066
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Plus you know who is really in charge. It's not like they are claiming to be DEVGRU Operators. |
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Msg ID:
2733128 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +0/-0
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Author:Are Required Flight Attendants
6/20/2022 7:32:52 PM
Reply to: 2733066
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Crew Members? Crew means any person performing flight duties during flight(somewhat paraphrased). |
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Msg ID:
2733164 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +0/-0
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Author::-)
6/20/2022 10:07:35 PM
Reply to: 2733066
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Why does this matter so much to you? |
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Msg ID:
2733213 |
Stolen Valor? +1/-2
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Author:Ha
6/21/2022 9:51:13 AM
Reply to: 2733066
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Stolen Valor? So becoming a pilot or part of the aircrew now means you have valor? Continue to water down the Stolen Language. |
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Msg ID:
2733263 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +2/-3
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Author:You are a pilot with an
6/21/2022 2:59:54 PM
Reply to: 2733066
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small PP.
Med crews are crews who are flying. It takes a team to comply with all the company wants an needs... what they define them as has nothing to do with the fact that you as the pilot ... are a very small part of company. Put your ego back in your flight bag and do your job. |
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Msg ID:
2733289 |
do you tell people you're (NT) +1/-1
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Author:a doctor too?
6/21/2022 5:07:14 PM
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Msg ID:
2733309 |
do you tell people you're +1/-2
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Author:cheap
6/21/2022 5:45:04 PM
Reply to: 2733289
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They are "flight attendants",aka "cabin crew". |
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Msg ID:
2733333 |
No, only that I played one on a radio show once. (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
6/22/2022 7:37:27 AM
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Msg ID:
2733438 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +3/-0
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Author:Nope
6/23/2022 11:30:13 AM
Reply to: 2733263
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It's not ego. It's the experience of knowing Med crews are insane and not to be trusted. You should get in. Sit down, put your seat belt on and stop distracting the flight crew with your bullcrap. |
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Msg ID:
2733472 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +3/-0
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Author:Agree
6/23/2022 4:23:11 PM
Reply to: 2733263
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with one exception which most would agree medical crews working under the idea their work definition involves 'flight' crew tends to involve their creeping in to ownership of command only the pilot realistically and legally owns.
That said the pilot also has the obligation to listen to all 'pertinent' input AND the medical 'flight' crew cannot 'interfere' with the pilot effecting his or her responsibilities by inundating the pilot with 'input'.
Most medical people have an inkling of how far their chatterbox mouths should be open. Unfortunately some take it a bit further in to demanding the pilot make certain decisions and that is exactly where interfering with a legally defined flight crewmember, not medical flight crewmember, or medical crewmember, can/may become a required report to the company and FAA.
Had a medical character tell me the next time a pilot did not do as he told him to do he was going to get on to the 'aviation VHF' frequency and complain to the 'tower, or eroute radar controller' etc. It was really a roll the eyeballs moment, and so did his (eyeballs) when I told him his thinking was creeping in to an aircraft hijack scenario which might result in an F16 or such on the tail of the aircraft. Told him if that occurred I certainly would wish him luck dealing with it. Never heard another word about that trash and he did adjust his 'thinking'.
From the mouths of babes, or is closer to morons? |
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Msg ID:
2733435 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +0/-1
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Author:Roy
6/23/2022 10:40:18 AM
Reply to: 2733066
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Don't worry about it hoss, just be a good, obedient, vendor pilot and do your job. It's not like you can do anything about it except complain. |
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Msg ID:
2733802 |
Attn: ALL Med Crew with "Flight Crew" Stickers or patches +0/-0
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Author:Yes
6/26/2022 9:26:55 PM
Reply to: 2733435
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you can, you can leave. |
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Msg ID:
2733788 |
Bro you have a small dong if you care that. (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
6/26/2022 5:35:28 PM
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