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Msg ID: 2732927 What’s going on over at AMC? +8/-0     
Author:WTF
6/19/2022 9:35:11 AM

Retention is awful across the board. Nearly 60% turnover rate on the medical side and 140+ pilot openings. Area Managers that haven’t a clue how to run aviation operations and are more than willing to throw safety and regulations out the window to avoid out of service time. Aviation managers have placed so much pressure to fly, it’s through the roof, while safety appears to look the other way. Maintenance can’t keep up on the scheduling and so many aircraft are operating on one extension or another. Nothing gets done on time. “Do more with less” seems to be the mentality. It certainly isn’t the company it was ten years ago.



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Msg ID: 2732931 What’s going on over at AMC? +1/-0     
Author:txron
6/19/2022 9:45:49 AM

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Retired from them over 11 years ago and it wasn't worth a daaam then.Most companies are run by people that have no clue of the industry they are running. It is sad, but our country will continue to erode under the current circumstances.



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Msg ID: 2732937 What’s going on over at AMC? +2/-0     
Author:The current circumstances
6/19/2022 10:41:34 AM

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It's bidens fault AMC has poor management. Or something 



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Msg ID: 2732938 What’s going on over at AMC? +1/-0     
Author:wake up
6/19/2022 10:43:14 AM

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almost every helicopter company I've ever worked at in the past 20 years had been poorly run. Except PHI oil and gas that is.



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Msg ID: 2732953 What’s going on over at AMC? +1/-0     
Author:I concur
6/19/2022 12:36:43 PM

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PHI Oil and Gas best job I have had. If only the oil wasn't located offshore of the anu$ of America I would still be there.



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Msg ID: 2732958 What’s going on over at AMC? +2/-0     
Author:Been
6/19/2022 1:10:57 PM

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with a few operators and AMC as better than most, worse than the best.

it all starts at the top and if a company has problems just look at their management and weaknesses.

 



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Msg ID: 2732939 What’s going on over at AMC? +1/-0     
Author:Well
6/19/2022 10:43:40 AM

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Said 



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Msg ID: 2732945 I'll Drink to that! (NT) +1/-0     
Author:Gordo
6/19/2022 11:27:26 AM

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Msg ID: 2732947 What’s going on over at AMC? +3/-0     
Author:Been there
6/19/2022 11:35:35 AM

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You are totally righ.

Left no too long ago for the same reasons.

Sketchy mechanics, bottom resume pill pilots, "legacy" aircraft, maintenance being postponed to have quarters numbers look good.

I tried to reach my manager to tell him that I was leaving, well that manager had quit and his boss too.

when you think about it, it's a miracle that they dont have an accident every month.

If you work there, get your experience and get the hell out.



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Msg ID: 2732950 What’s going on over at AMC? +4/-0     
Author:It’s about money
6/19/2022 11:43:16 AM

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Although they claim "safety first, it is being run like if it was "money first".

You can feel the investors squeezing the juice out of AM every day.

Its all about short gain 



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Msg ID: 2732960 What’s going on over at AMC? +3/-0     
Author:Safety
6/19/2022 1:17:52 PM

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Third :)



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Msg ID: 2732968 Did you copy and paste this from your 2018 bargaining propaganda posts? (NT) +0/-2     
Author:AMC is still here & going strong
6/19/2022 2:41:08 PM

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Msg ID: 2732971 Did you copy and paste this from your 2018 bargaining propaganda posts?  +2/-0     
Author:Did
6/19/2022 2:57:40 PM

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Mgmt write this?



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Msg ID: 2732993 but we get our weekly newsletter from the CEO +2/-0     
Author:Lol
6/19/2022 6:57:13 PM

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Every Friday that is typed up by her secretary



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Msg ID: 2732994 Try working for MT, METRO, PHI AMG  +1/-0     
Author:Same ZHIT show over there
6/19/2022 7:01:05 PM

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I've worked for all three of them including Air Methods nothing changes in the center street it's the same every company no matter where you go



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Msg ID: 2732996 Try working for MT, METRO, PHI AMG  +0/-0     
Author:Almost like
6/19/2022 7:26:41 PM

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Whole sector is trash :)



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Msg ID: 2733000 Try working for MT, METRO, PHI AMG  +1/-0     
Author:everyone thinks it is
6/19/2022 8:18:42 PM

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better somewhere else...it isn't...just a little more or less....Same ZHIT show...management forgets where they come from.....



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Msg ID: 2733013 Make the switch to METRO!  +1/-0     
Author:Metreaux pile it
6/20/2022 7:16:14 AM

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Metro actively recruiting pilots.  Great training and support.  Medical for employee and family paid in full.

Make the jump! Absolutely the best helicopter company I have worked for.



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Msg ID: 2733026 Make the switch to METRO!  +1/-1     
Author:Really???
6/20/2022 9:48:58 AM

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Whats their starting pay.....

Benefits are not as good as AMC, as well as Retirement.

So yah... They are all the same.

HAA has become a trash heap with to many operators and to many dinging pilots.



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Msg ID: 2733034 Make the switch to METRO!  +1/-1     
Author:METRO doesn't
6/20/2022 10:55:50 AM

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pay for experience....no matter what you ask for they won't pay for Past EMS experience at all...their selling point is "well we pay your medical, dental etc"    well not really when you low ball someone's pay...it is coming out from somewhere....EVEN AMC is restricted on starting pay per the CBA....they can't go over it, but can offer Experience pay and higher GEO...>METRO will not do that....i have heard that Metro safety policy is a Window dressing as well and management questions flight turn downs...when the customer questions them....

THEY ARE ALL THE SAME...



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Msg ID: 2733068 Make the switch to METRO!  +0/-0     
Author:Metreaux Pile It 2
6/20/2022 3:02:01 PM

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Try contacting them, you might just be surprised by what they have to offer.   4% annual raise for the past 15 years, 75% match on 401.  Can not speak for other bases, but Metro is a 100% safety driven company.



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Msg ID: 2733077 Welcome to the wonderful world of the helicopter industry (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Seasoned vet
6/20/2022 4:09:53 PM

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Msg ID: 2733120 You apparently never worked at PHI. AMG  +0/-0     
Author:Talk about legacy aircraft
6/20/2022 6:54:59 PM

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The AMG hasmy bought new airframes in about 10yrs. They are still flying B3 that were converted from B2 and EC 135/407 almost 20-25yrs old aircraft.  



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