Msg ID:
2732017 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +2/-0
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Author:Just gave BIG raises
6/11/2022 3:26:32 PM
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AMC has officially fell to the bottom of the pay list....even lower than AEL now. But, at least we have SPRYTE!!! |
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Msg ID:
2732018 |
AMC can keep SPRYTE because they are apparently 'drinking' too much (NT) +0/-0
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Author:COKE!
6/11/2022 3:28:08 PM
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Msg ID:
2732019 |
Cost of GAS offsets any workover money I would make. DONE with ANY workover (NT) +1/-1
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Author:until a raise!!! Step up AMC!!!
6/11/2022 3:30:18 PM
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Msg ID:
2732031 |
They use more fuel than you do in a day! (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
6/11/2022 4:11:17 PM
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Msg ID:
2732079 |
They use more fuel than you do in a day! (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Ummmm….okay.
6/11/2022 10:34:11 PM
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Msg ID:
2732021 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +5/-0
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Author:Metro Guy
6/11/2022 3:44:21 PM
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Metro got a raise? Whhhooooooooo!!!!! Wait.... I didn't get a raise? |
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Msg ID:
2732023 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +2/-0
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Author:MTC Guy
6/11/2022 3:50:09 PM
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Med Trans pilots didn't get a raise, but the new hires now make more than the long term guys. |
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Msg ID:
2732027 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +6/-0
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Author:P Hi
6/11/2022 4:07:51 PM
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LOL! you must be talking about another PHI, tiny raise (2.6 %). Now we're only 14% behind. But we can throw big sign on bonuses to new hires while SH*TTING on the employees keeping the place afloat. PHI has become the worst. |
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Msg ID:
2732044 |
Strange, I got 3.2% plus another step +0/-0
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Author:So 5.2% total at PHI
6/11/2022 5:33:31 PM
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Granted, I missed 3 steps buuuut, money's money. I'm not jumping to fixed wing, so, I guess it is what it is. |
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Msg ID:
2732910 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +0/-0
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Author:The suggs
6/19/2022 2:30:47 AM
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factor lives. |
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Msg ID:
2732026 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +1/-0
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Author:AELer
6/11/2022 4:05:35 PM
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Nope, no raises here either. |
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Msg ID:
2732030 |
So, probie, go work there then! (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
6/11/2022 4:10:31 PM
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Msg ID:
2732037 |
EASY FIX. QUIT and then get rehired with the BIG BONUSES (NT) +3/-0
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Author:Only New Hires Get
6/11/2022 4:45:22 PM
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Msg ID:
2732038 |
EASY FIX. QUIT and then get rehired with the BIG BONUSES +3/-0
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Author:WOW
6/11/2022 5:03:35 PM
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New Hires are starting out making more than a 10 year company pilot. |
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Msg ID:
2732040 |
Easy to do when you have a Union contract that doesn't (NT) +0/-0
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Author:protect dues paying Union members!
6/11/2022 5:09:05 PM
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Msg ID:
2732048 |
Says the guy who got fired and blames the union... +3/-1
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Author:Its everywhere smart guy
6/11/2022 5:55:50 PM
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At least the union saved vacation, sick, 401k, gives base protection, no forced workover, overtime for training and travel, schedule protections, and the list goes on....ALL things that other NON-union companies dont have.
Dont be mad you got fired and the union coudlnt save you from yourself. |
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Msg ID:
2732058 |
Huh? Fired? You began by whining the new guy makes more than the senior +1/-2
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Author:guy. B'/C no protection for senior!
6/11/2022 7:51:42 PM
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And, who was fired?
As far as the other nonsense ---
Lost going on actual vacation when CBA automatic payout kicked in and took it.
Schedule Protections? --> As far as I remember, company blew that to peaces (mandating schedule types, start/stop days, hours, etc).
401k ? -> regulated by law, not unions!
Base protections? --> WTH? Seriously?
Overtime for training and travel? --> IOWs, getting paid for working? California pilot took care of that himself, who needed a union?
Saved Sick Time?? --> Huh? You just throwing in things to make it sound good?
Non-Union companies have that, some are even better.
So, this begs the question: If it is so good at the union, why are you crying you need a new contract?
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Msg ID:
2732073 |
So we aren’t stuck in the moment and gain and progress as the economy and +1/-0
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Author:Industry does. Rather be UNION
6/11/2022 10:22:39 PM
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Yoh obviously have ZERO clue of what you are talking about and the benefits the union brings and has protected solely because of this contract. If you think otherwise ask yourself why are medical crews and check airmen organizing with OPEIU as well as two other major carriers? Guess you know more... |
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Msg ID:
2732204 |
If you call 2 or 3 OPEIU guys going around trying to get 51% to sign cards +0/-0
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Author:now for years and years organizing,
6/13/2022 7:38:13 AM
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then, I guess you are correct to say they trying to "organize"!
The company is shaking in their shoes I'm sure! |
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Msg ID:
2732210 |
Better check your filings +0/-0
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Author:Check airmen 78% approved with DOL
6/13/2022 8:25:46 AM
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clinicians drive has over 750 signatures as of June 1st....check back in 6 months and tell me how dumb you feel....again....as always.
Minnesota program, formerly AMC, also filed with the votes.
NW US program, LF, filed with the votes.
Texas program, formerly AMc, filed with the votes.
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Msg ID:
2732214 |
What does the DOL have to do with "filings"? (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Not a thing!
6/13/2022 9:29:07 AM
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Msg ID:
2732136 |
Huh? Fired? You began by whining the new guy makes more than the senior +0/-0
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Author:None of them had it
6/12/2022 12:01:30 PM
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Until the union. |
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Msg ID:
2732094 |
Says the guy who got fired and blames the union... +1/-2
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Author:Funny
6/11/2022 11:59:21 PM
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none of those things you mention have been a problem at any non-union company I've ever worked at over the years. And don't try the crap that "union companies set the standards for the rest of the industry". It's plain old good business decisions to keep employees. Of course, in a union shop, the employer can't ask employees about what would help keep them happy and the employees can't talk to the company either. You know EXACTLY what I mean. |
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Msg ID:
2732120 |
Again. False info and fake news. (NT) +0/-0
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Author:You need a hug
6/12/2022 8:30:50 AM
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Msg ID:
2732049 |
AMC new hires making more than a 13 year employee at AMC due to bonuses (NT) +0/-0
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Author:AMC refuses to give to current pilots
6/11/2022 5:57:16 PM
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Msg ID:
2732060 |
Why does the CBA allow for that in the first place?? (NT) +0/-0
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Author:You ratified it, stop complaining!
6/11/2022 7:54:43 PM
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Msg ID:
2732074 |
It’s not the CBA. Nice try. It’s the RLA, just like the airlines have done (NT) +0/-0
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Author:For decades
6/11/2022 10:23:23 PM
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Msg ID:
2732212 |
The RLA allows new hires to earn lots more than senior guys?? +0/-0
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Author:If true, nothing you can do about it
6/13/2022 9:18:45 AM
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Of course, it's not true. The RLA allows you to negotiate a CBA, and it is the CBA that restricts a company to compensation rules. So, if the current CBA allows for it, which it apparently does, then you can't whine and complain since you ratified the CBA to allow for it.
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Msg ID:
2732053 |
AMC refuses a pay raise but PHI, Metro, AEL, MTC, aka EVERYONE ELSE +1/-1
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Author:Uh
6/11/2022 6:20:32 PM
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AMC has a union contract. |
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Msg ID:
2732108 |
PHI DID NOT GET A BIG RAISE +2/-0
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Author:Do the math
6/12/2022 7:11:20 AM
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3.2% increase and 1 step increase in pay ( is about $1200/yr in step). They also didn't give raises for almost 2 years even though there is CBA specifically states one step increase a year. They've been dancing around that for year saying the company has the right per financial reasons to give it or not. Also they cut their 401(k) in half to 3% matching unless they meet their yearly goal and then they match the other 3% so they make the employee work harder to make that financial goal for the company in order to give some thing that was offered to him unemployment |
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Msg ID:
2732118 |
The Union pilots received the annual raise…guess it pays (NT) +0/-0
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Author:2BUnion
6/12/2022 8:28:32 AM
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Msg ID:
2732206 |
So, you no longer have an argument for "free riders" anymore (NT) +0/-0
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Author:(not that you ever did!)
6/13/2022 7:44:41 AM
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Msg ID:
2732209 |
free riders? only pilots at PHI that got raises were Union pilots +0/-0
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Author:because of a contract
6/13/2022 8:21:12 AM
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at least for now |
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Msg ID:
2732508 |
PHI DID NOT GET A BIG RAISE +1/-0
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Author:THAT
6/15/2022 8:03:23 PM
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is pure bull. Sue them. |
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