Did they ask their members if it was OK to do this?   They said in the memo they wanted you to have a voice, so did they ask you if it was OK to change your contract, for better or for worse?

Why wouldn't we want a new contract? The pay needs to increase. You can't get that by not negotiating. What person would want to just stay where we are now? It makes sense, I don't need to be asked.

The members dont vote on section 6 Notices. never have, in ANY union. The members vote to approve any changes to the contract and its ratification. you are ignorant or illiterate. Read the CBA. read the RLA. Without section 6 they can't even negotiate a single item for a member vote, so yeah, it's required. that means pay raises and any benefit or work condition issue. contract ends august 5th and the union has to submit it 60 days prour. They did that. the union did their job.

funny. I didn't see you posting in the official union forum to voice your concern.....maybe because it's not anonym like this forum and you nothing but a whiney troll coward. Seems caccurate.

yoh have a union issues, take it to the union and their forum. Or,

you scared?

Join the union, you give consent.  Part of the deal.

Here you are on an anonymous forum running your mouth and spitting falsities because you are afraid to post on the official union forum because then people would know who the troll is. In other words you lack not just ethics, but courage and integrity, as well.

for certain issues the law is followed and a vote is held for the member, or private citizen, as applicable. That's how this works. I can tell yoh have no knowledge it understanding of how these organizations operate or this concept so I will defer to the other poster who said it's part of the agreement when you join the union. Dont like it, leave. don't like the representatives, run for office yourself. Pretty simple, really.

Agency fee payers actually pay more than members, since members get money back from their dues that agency fee payers don't.   A member's dues are LESS then an agency fee payer's fees.  

Yes, that's how union's really work!

who the tyrants are in this equation.

There is nothing the union exists for other than the CBA.  So, before you officially enter into a negotiation period (a major dispute with the company over workrules, pay, and benefits) that has the consequesnce of  changing the CBA, the member's themselves should decide if that is what they wanted to do (which is done with a vote).

Your explaination is that they only get to vote on the resultant modification even if they didn't want to change it in the first place.

Yup, that is how union's work...  they don't refer even the most important matter to their members for a decision.

"If you don't like that, Quit", you say to members (and non members still required to pay dues semantically disguised as one-for-one "agency fees")  Quit the union, or quit the job?  It's not clear what you are suggesting here.   Q:  How much money did the union invest in each member's training/experience/resume before that person got the job??

There is an end to bargaining once started, and it may not end pretty.   Local 108 learned that.  It's akin to a a game of musical chairs and when the music stops, you get what you get.   And, before you begin that game, the members should have voted to tell you "yes, that's what we want", since the end of the game mught result in significant losses -- particularly when playing against a securities company!

Hey OP if you don't understand the Union and how it works, keep your mouth shut...if you don't want them working for you, then don't ask....just another TROLL 

What changes you wanted to see done. They probably complied that info from ASKING YOU AND OTHERS in the survey and questionnaire.  So in fact they did ask for input. 

So here's the hard truth.

AMC is hiring new pilots at a higher rate than current employees.

Unless the group of pilots within AMC come together, we are going to lose.

Military guys, understand there is more at stake than just money, benefits etc.  Civilian guys don't have that luxury. As much as the civilian guys need to know their worth and hold tight, to help get better pay for military guys as well.

Do you want to be like the airlines and get your W4 pay and make a great living to help pay off the those nice toys you bought, yes! The civilian guys want to help you  too, because it helps us as well.

How about we play on the same team for once, and make this better for everyone.