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Msg ID: 2725003 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +2/-5     
Author:olderendirt
4/3/2022 2:55:28 PM
10, 11 0r 12 feet in my state. There's your more accurate assessment of the LZ, estimated width, length by number of lanes. Eight to ten lanes long, good enough for me. How long is a semi-trailer? 48 to 53 feet. I used the average of those numbers, 51 feet. two trailer lengths wide is 96 to a 100 feet.


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Msg ID: 2725008 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? (NT) +1/-1     
Author:hose, is that you?
4/3/2022 3:23:42 PM

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Msg ID: 2725023 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +1/-1     
Author:hose
4/3/2022 6:49:12 PM

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no that no me but if you think you have to try to measure landing spot in road like that, you in wrong business



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Msg ID: 2725026 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +2/-2     
Author:anony
4/3/2022 7:03:38 PM

Reply to: 2725023

Parking spots standard width is 9' I tend to use those more than highways as the highways around here are so big its kinda of a non issue.  It you are trying to judge clearance to light poles in a parking lot that will help you out.  Granted most everyone here can kinda of picture it in their head and know if they are going to fit but it certainly helps the newer guys who may want a much larger than needed LZ.  One of the first things I do with any new aircraft i fly is go put a rock at the edge of the disk at the front and sides on the ground then climbing in the cockpit and see what that looks like for just how close you can actually land to something and not hit it.  In time it becomes second nature but all of us who have worked with newer pilots and they swear they are about to hit the edge of a building or pole during landing but its 50' away.



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Msg ID: 2725086 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +1/-3     
Author:No
4/4/2022 12:42:25 PM

Reply to: 2725003

clue why the negative remarks.  The advice is on the ground and relevant.  



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Msg ID: 2725095 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +1/-1     
Author:yeah but
4/4/2022 1:42:57 PM

Reply to: 2725086

what do you do if you have to land somewhere like the woods where nobody has gotten around to painting lines on the ground.



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Msg ID: 2725102 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +1/-0     
Author:olderendirt
4/4/2022 4:22:53 PM

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"what do you doif you have to land somewhere like the woods where nobody has gotten around to painting lines on the ground."

Good question. You estimate and keep your crew involved. The SOP at my last job was to do as many high, low recons as you wanted.

Brief the crew on the plan and fly the plan in a sterile cockpit.

If anybody says anything that is not shaped by the brief, you stop and perhaps go around until the issue is addressed. Everybody will be in the crash, so everybody watches out, speaks out.

The pilot narrates the approach: coming to the turn posiition to align with landing, starting deseent, see the pole (highway berrier, rocks right front, whatever, clear left and behind? Clear right and beihnd? 

Heve the big trees on the right {or light standards, whatever) and hug them like you ve'em; etc., all the way down to skids on the ground call and crew exit.

Usually the requesting agency knows and meets our LZ requirements. I very sledom had to reject a propsed LZ and I would always suggest an option that I could accept.

A bigger problem was the landing surface. Tited or stumps, rocks I dodn't see from the recons. Or last minute wires. On the recon I was looking for right of ways, structures near by that would have elctric and phones. Bridges always have wires spanning the right of way. Look for signs not facing you, they're not obvious from behind...

Oh, and and do a power check! There are rules of thumb: 3% TQ means 200 lbs as does 1% of NG.

Not that hard, just don't rush it.



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Msg ID: 2725116 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +2/-2     
Author:olderendirt's a newb!
4/4/2022 10:58:22 PM

Reply to: 2725102

explains a lot



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Msg ID: 2725139 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +1/-2     
Author:Please.
4/5/2022 11:41:16 AM

Reply to: 2725095

Don't clutter the forum.



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Msg ID: 2725209 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +0/-2     
Author::-)
4/6/2022 12:25:17 PM

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I don't get what you're implying. Are you implying that a pilot shouldn't use a valid technique when landing to a roadside scene just because that same technique wouldn't work at a scene located in the woods?


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Msg ID: 2725248 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +0/-1     
Author:here's another one
4/6/2022 11:47:05 PM

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don't look in so close to the helicopter when hovering. if you look out a ways, it'll help with overcontrolling.



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Msg ID: 2725249 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +0/-1     
Author:and another
4/6/2022 11:49:25 PM

Reply to: 2725209

don't use a death grip on the cyclic. hold it lightly and you'll avoid overcontolling it and it'll settle right down for you in a hover.

you're welcome



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Msg ID: 2725099 An HEMS tip: how wide are highway lnes in your state? +3/-1     
Author:Anonymous
4/4/2022 3:44:43 PM

Reply to: 2725086

maybe get the nurse to help you?



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