Msg ID:
2723071 |
NVG questions +1/-3
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Author:Study Man
3/13/2022 3:09:03 PM
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CRASH FFF SAR is one-
GRAM... I can't remember the rest.
Any other cool acronyms for NVG stuff. |
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Msg ID:
2723073 |
NVG questions +5/-1
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Author:been using NVGs for 5 years
3/13/2022 3:11:02 PM
Reply to: 2723071
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never heard of any of them |
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Msg ID:
2723074 |
NVG questions +1/-2
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Author:Study man
3/13/2022 3:13:44 PM
Reply to: 2723073
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C-confusion ground lights
R-elative motion
A-ltered planes of reference
NVG illusions- just some ways of remembering for a check ride |
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Msg ID:
2723079 |
NVG questions +2/-3
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Author:Flown NVGs for 42 Years
3/13/2022 3:33:00 PM
Reply to: 2723073
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I use FLASH often to keep me from going IIMC, it works.
Fog
Loss of light
Ambiert light reduced
Shadows on ground
Halos around lights
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Msg ID:
2723082 |
NVG questions +1/-1
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Author:Study Man
3/13/2022 3:40:05 PM
Reply to: 2723079
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Thank you, I will add this to student study guide.
Things like this help all of us. Your 42 years shows in your professionalism, Thank you |
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Msg ID:
2723089 |
Army overkill +4/-2
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Author:An Army Guy
3/13/2022 4:34:58 PM
Reply to: 2723071
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Taught NVGs to IERW students. Trust me; most of it is overkill. Don't need to know 3/4 of the material to operate VERY safely with NVGs.
Here's a fun list since you're asking...
Distance Estimation and Depth Perception: BM-GRAM
Under G is LAV, R is KITO, A is FLL
Night use of lights is FLAPII
NVG Operational Characteristics: DIAL VP
NVG Operational Considerations: CALMWWADSOS
Under L is PET, W is FLASH (as previously posted), D is DATE
And there are PLENTY more... yada yada yada.
Just fly slow and make even more conservative wx decisions and you'll be fine.
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Msg ID:
2723090 |
Army overkill +1/-1
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Author:An Army Guy
3/13/2022 4:37:06 PM
Reply to: 2723089
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Also, it's FFF CRASH CARS (or CSAR depending on how you like your mnemonic)
One C is Confusion with Ground Lights
The other C is Crater Illusion (when landing in an almost perfectly flat snow or desert landing area with no other items to contrast) |
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Msg ID:
2723105 |
NVG +2/-2
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Author:Flight school nerd
3/13/2022 7:11:51 PM
Reply to: 2723093
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I've been using NVGs for years and couldn't tell you anything about em. You turn them on and its not as dark...not much to it. |
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Msg ID:
2723106 |
NVG +1/-2
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Author:I Have Been Using The Company
3/13/2022 7:20:07 PM
Reply to: 2723105
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Airplane and flying it for years and couldn't tell you anything about it. You take off and it flies...not much to it. |
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Msg ID:
2723108 |
NVG +4/-2
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Author:Not
3/13/2022 7:54:29 PM
Reply to: 2723093
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kidding.
NVGs are just another tool that is very worthwhile and easy to use. I kept mine adjusted all the way out from my glasses (Yeup, no problem) so I could easily look under them to the panel or outside with a very slight head tilt. Don't need them? Flip them up.
The formal school is worthwhile. Don't try to remember all the wizardry. Just go through it so you'll know where to find answers later on.
Be conservative and enjoy. You will learn to like them. |
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Msg ID:
2723116 |
NVG +2/-4
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Author:NVG instructor
3/13/2022 8:35:42 PM
Reply to: 2723108
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If you have your NVGs "all the way out" you have reduced your field of view to about 20 degrees. The NVGs should be sdjusted to about 25mm from your eyes (which will accommodate glasses) for the widest FOV. |
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Msg ID:
2723531 |
NVG +0/-0
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Author:Yes, I
3/18/2022 10:40:03 PM
Reply to: 2723116
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agree but in practice with slight head movement I was happy. Never needed to get ultra serious about the FOV.
One of our pilots had them cranked all the way (no glasses) in and the panel lights effectively OFF. Something about National Guard and Blackhawks and deployments and Afghanistan and whatever else. Didn't pay too much attention, neither did anyone else. In my day we flew the INFANT. Terrible forward CG.
Bottom line NVGs are a very worthwhile tool. Glad I got to use them. |
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Msg ID:
2723281 |
Yeah and You Know What's Funny +0/-1
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Author:Anonymous
3/15/2022 1:07:51 PM
Reply to: 2723093
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What's funny is I gots thousands hours night time and NVG and Turbine Twin and all that there and I can't get a job interview for a ute operation because: no long line. Oh Well. Ute pilots are like Lear Captains, they are not made, they just come into existence somehow. Probably by divine miraculous Word of Creation. |
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Msg ID:
2723532 |
Yeah and You Know What's Funny +0/-0
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Author:Good
3/18/2022 10:42:14 PM
Reply to: 2723281
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luck if that's what you want to do. Welcome to civilian work. |
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Msg ID:
2723117 |
Army overkill +0/-2
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Author:RTAGer
3/13/2022 8:46:41 PM
Reply to: 2723090
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Not the correct acronym anymore. They Army, in its infinite wisdom, changed it. Probably some clever RLO making a change for an OER bullet.
what used to be relative motion is now Vection... smh |
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Msg ID:
2723189 |
NVG questions +2/-1
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Author::-)
3/14/2022 7:14:13 PM
Reply to: 2723071
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I was a Night Systems Instructor in uncle sams misguided children. Anyone who's done the MAWTS course knows how wayyyyy overboard we mil guys can be as far as useless knowledge. Anyways, in my humble opinion, which is just that, just an opinion, you need to know the indications of an impending IIMC event. You need to know what an objective lens does and what a diopter lens does. You need a very basic understanding of how an I2 tube works. And most importantly, you should develop a mindset of thinking of the NVGs the same way you'd think of one of your other flight instruments. They don't turn night onto day, and they're not a substitute that give you Day VFR capability. There has to be SOME source of illuminance out there for them to work. Beware of shadows. They are just another instrument in your toolbox to make things a little more safe and a little more efficient. I found with the guys and gals I trained, as a rule of thumb, they needed about 50 hours on the goggles before they got past the gee-whiz factor and really got a good feel for flying on NVGs.
Again, that's just my opinion and experience. |
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