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Msg ID: 2722248 Mil to Civ +0/-1     
Author:Medicals
3/3/2022 4:56:31 PM

Planned to get a First Class but was told to get a Second Class. Not sure why? 


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Msg ID: 2722251 Mil to Civ +7/-2     
Author:AME
3/3/2022 5:44:28 PM
Reply to: 2722248

A second class is all you need, a first class can sometimes set you up for failure with the slighted of conditions.


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Msg ID: 2722252 Mil to Civ +6/-2     
Author:Me.
3/3/2022 5:46:28 PM
Reply to: 2722248

Because you should never let an AME hook you up to an EKG if it's not required.

Leave that for you personal Doctor.


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Msg ID: 2722254 Mil to Civ +2/-0     
Author:unless you have to
3/3/2022 5:57:14 PM
Reply to: 2722248

have a Class 1 there's no need to do it.  Your military Class 2 is actually far more extensive than a FAA Class 1, but there is nothing to be gained by getting a Class 1 if it's not required.


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Msg ID: 2722261 Mil to Civ +2/-11     
Author:Utility flyer
3/3/2022 9:31:55 PM
Reply to: 2722248 		Thank you to all you mil to civ types for being so clueless. It makes me more valuable and thus more money.
By all means… spend twice as much for a 1st class and prepare to fail and be out of work at the slightest cold or change in blood pressure


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Msg ID: 2722267 Mil to Civ +3/-0     
Author:bp limits are the same
3/3/2022 10:51:13 PM
Reply to: 2722261

for all classes. everything else is the same too except for the EKG. you embarrass yourself every time you come on here. give it up bro.


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Msg ID: 2722268 Mil to Civ +4/-1     
Author:yeah, big difference
3/3/2022 10:56:40 PM
Reply to: 2722261

Summary of Medical Standards

Medical Certificate Pilot TypeFirst-Class Airline Transport PilotSecond-Class Commercial PilotThird-Class Private Pilot
Distant Vision 20/20 or better in each eye separately, with or without correction. 20/40 or better in each eye separately, with or without correction.
Near Vision 20/40 or better in each eye separately (Snellen equivalent), with or without correction, as measured at 16 inches.
Intermediate Vision 20/40 or better in each eye separately (Snellen equivalent), with or without correction at age 50 and over, as measured at 32 inches. No requirement.
Color Vision Ability to perceive those colors necessary for safe performance of airman duties.
Hearing Demonstrate hearing of an average conversational voice in a quiet room, using both ears at 6 feet, with the back turned to the examiner or pass one of the audiometric tests below.
Audiology Audiometric speech discrimination test: Score at least 70% reception in one ear at an intensity of no greater than 65 dB. Pure tone audiometric test. Unaided, with thresholds no worse than:
Sound Levels:
Ear Condition500 Hz1,000 Hz2,000 Hz3,000 Hz
Better Ear 35 dB 30 dB 30 dB 40 dB
Worst Ear 35 dB 50 dB 50 dB 60 dB
Ent No ear disease or condition manifested by, or that may reasonably be expected to maintained by, vertigo or a disturbance of speech or equilibrium.
Pulse Not disqualifying per se. Used to determine cardiac system status and responsiveness.
Blood Pressure No specified values stated in the standards. The current guideline maximum value is 155/95.
Electrocardiogram (ECG) At age 35 and annually after age 40 (first-class only) Not routinely required. (second- and third-class only)
Mental No diagnosis of psychosis, or bipolar disorder, or severe personality disorders.
Substance Dependence and Substance Abuse A diagnosis or medical history of substance dependence is disqualifying unless there is established clinical evidence, satisfactory to the Federal Air Surgeon, of recovery, including sustained total abstinence from the substance(s) for not less than the preceding 2 years. A history of substance abuse within the preceding 2 years is disqualifying. Substance includes alcohol and other drugs (i.e., PCP, sedatives and hypnotics, anxiolytics, marijuana, cocaine, opioids, amphetamines, hallucinogens, and other psychoactive drugs or chemicals).
Disqualifying Conditions Unless otherwise directed by the FAA, the Examiner must deny or defer if the applicant has a history of: (1) Diabetes mellitus requiring hypoglycemic medication; (2) Angina pectoris; (3) Coronary heart disease that has been treated or, if untreated, that has been symptomatic or clinically significant; (4) Myocardial infarction; (5) Cardiac valve replacement; (6) Permanent cardiac pacemaker; (7) Heart replacement; (8) Psychosis; (9) Bipolar disorder; (10) Personality disorder that is severe enough to have repeatedly manifested itself by overt acts; (11) Substance dependence; (12) Substance abuse; (13) Epilepsy; (14) Disturbance of consciousness and without satisfactory explanation of cause, and (15) Transient loss of control of nervous system function(s) without satisfactory explanation of cause.
Note: For further information, contact your Regional Flight Surgeon.

The dreaded EKG.  It appears that you're the clueless one.


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Msg ID: 2722269 Mil to Civ +0/-3     
Author:read it you stupid idiot
3/3/2022 11:18:03 PM
Reply to: 2722268

lol


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Msg ID: 2722271 Mil to Civ +3/-1     
Author:I did genius,
3/4/2022 12:42:41 AM
Reply to: 2722269

the only difference is an EKG.

Reading is FUNdamental.


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Msg ID: 2722275 Mil to Civ +0/-2     
Author:Util
3/4/2022 7:53:42 AM
Reply to: 2722261

It doesn't cost more money utility tard 


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Msg ID: 2722277 Save your money +1/-1     
Author:Unless you need Class 1
3/4/2022 9:23:37 AM
Reply to: 2722248 		Unless you are bidding for job in a big helicopter, it's not worth the waste of money or an error in transmission to OKC.


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Msg ID: 2722443 Save your money +1/-1     
Author:Big
3/6/2022 9:08:16 PM
Reply to: 2722277

helicopters are not the dividing line, which happens to be whether you are flying for hire on scheduled service under the appropriate Regis.


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Msg ID: 2722627 Save your money (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Absolutely.
3/9/2022 12:51:23 PM
Reply to: 2722443


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Msg ID: 2722382 Mil to Civ +1/-1     
Author:Unless
3/5/2022 1:04:01 PM
Reply to: 2722248

your employer requires a first class get a second, however, if just out of the Mil and can pass the First Class, do so cuz prospective employers will simply chalk it up as another feather in ur cap.

Good luck.


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