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Msg ID: 2721118 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:Kauai
2/22/2022 5:17:14 PM

Sounds like Croman crashed on Kauai. 5 dead 



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Msg ID: 2721135 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +3/-0     
Author: Worst news
2/22/2022 8:15:51 PM

Reply to: 2721118

thats horrible news - they've been there a long time supporting the missile range 

prayers to all involved 



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Msg ID: 2721137 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author: Worst news
2/22/2022 8:17:43 PM

Reply to: 2721118

thats horrible news - they've been there a long time supporting the missile range 

prayers to all involved 



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Msg ID: 2721140 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:JB
2/22/2022 8:41:57 PM

Reply to: 2721118

The National Transportation Safety Board said in a tweet the agency is investigating the crash of the Sikorsky S-61N helicopter.



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Msg ID: 2721151 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:Story
2/22/2022 10:33:51 PM

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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/22/authorities-respond-aviation-incident-near-kauais-pacific-missile-range-facility/

 



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Msg ID: 2721170 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:Oh
2/23/2022 7:37:22 AM

Reply to: 2721140

dear.



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Msg ID: 2721153 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +5/-1     
Author:Horseman
2/22/2022 11:26:19 PM

Reply to: 2721118

Condolences to the four families, knew the pilots, not sure of the other two's names.  (Can't post as there has been no official notification)



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Msg ID: 2721190 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-5     
Author:Longliner
2/23/2022 9:16:14 AM

Reply to: 2721153

Can somone familiar with the mission explain why they would have 4?5? people onboard during an external load op?



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Msg ID: 2721204 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:CK
2/23/2022 9:57:42 AM

Reply to: 2721190

Crewmen for operating hoist and observing Torpedo being picked up.



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Msg ID: 2721206 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +1/-1     
Author:Training
2/23/2022 10:16:05 AM

Reply to: 2721190

Reports were it was a training flight with Croman employees

Hopefully details will come out but regardless it's horrible news 

long time friend on the ship who will be missed 



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Msg ID: 2721214 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +6/-0     
Author:Kailua Ulu tree
2/23/2022 10:48:56 AM

Reply to: 2721190

Because it's a torpedo recovery aircraft, and it has an hoist operator in the back!.. it's not just an average  longline operation.



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Msg ID: 2721254 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:jnj
2/23/2022 4:27:29 PM

Reply to: 2721214

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/22/authorities-respond-aviation-incident-near-kauais-pacific-missile-range-facility/

 



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Msg ID: 2721293 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:OMG
2/23/2022 9:34:52 PM

Reply to: 2721254

DM was killed.  SH it Sh it Sh it...



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Msg ID: 2721296 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +1/-0     
Author:LACOFD
2/23/2022 9:58:25 PM

Reply to: 2721293

Terrible news. DM was a great guy.



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Msg ID: 2721301 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +2/-0     
Author:It’s just
2/23/2022 11:07:28 PM

Reply to: 2721296

Unreal. DM was one of the most genuine and stand up men I've ever had the pleasure to work with. RIP 



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Msg ID: 2721321 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-7     
Author:My Guess
2/24/2022 8:21:59 AM

Reply to: 2721118

I am thinking they had a major failure, such as lost a main rotor blade.



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Msg ID: 2721548 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-3     
Author:sling king
2/25/2022 8:54:29 PM

Reply to: 2721321

Or more likely, the load prematurely released / or the line broke / or the remore hook failed / and that abrupt release of tension sling shoted the line up into the rotor system.



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Msg ID: 2721597 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-2     
Author:Rigger
2/26/2022 12:08:01 PM

Reply to: 2721548

If so...I would be interested to know the rope fiber and strength/load ratio. 
I know that happened a few times back in the 70s and 80s with nylon ropes near maximum capacity.

Nylon elongates 7% at 20% of break strength. The UHMPE ropes used now are 1-2% at 20% of break And typically utilized that much lower load ratios.

I've seen and have videos of several remote hook releases with zero recoil for that reason.



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Msg ID: 2721719 Helicopter crash Kauai - Croman +0/-0     
Author:Asking
2/27/2022 3:42:57 PM

Reply to: 2721597
Maybe input spin/failure?


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