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Msg ID: 2717502 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +4/-1     
Author:to nose dive over the marsh?
1/19/2022 8:47:56 AM

Catastrophic component failure

Pilot heart attack 

Suicide by helicopter 

IIMC Uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain (UFIT) was wx a factor



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Msg ID: 2717506 Aliens of course (NT) +0/-1     
Author:black science man
1/19/2022 8:56:08 AM

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Msg ID: 2717512 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +0/-0     
Author:cheap
1/19/2022 9:23:09 AM

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The 90 degree g/b coming off could have caused that.



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Msg ID: 2717514 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +0/-0     
Author:pushing forward on the cyclic
1/19/2022 10:09:27 AM

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probably got elevator illusion in IMC and tried to "fix" it. wouldn't be the first time.



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Msg ID: 2718331 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +0/-1     
Author:your so dumb
1/27/2022 2:14:22 PM

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he wasent in a elevator, he was in a aircraft dude..  you should do more research before posting on here



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Msg ID: 2717516 What could possibly cause a Bell 407 (NT) +0/-0     
Author:#4
1/19/2022 10:17:22 AM

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Msg ID: 2717520 Adverse reaction to the jab (NT) +3/-4     
Author:Unjabbed
1/19/2022 10:59:25 AM

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Msg ID: 2717521 Adverse reaction to the jab +5/-1     
Author:Jl123
1/19/2022 11:01:49 AM

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Bird strike?



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Msg ID: 2717529 Weather was not a factor (NT) +0/-0     
Author:6 miles vis
1/19/2022 1:16:59 PM

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Msg ID: 2717531 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +2/-1     
Author:OCONUS IP
1/19/2022 1:30:33 PM

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Hyrdaulic Actuator Malfunction is the most probable cause.  I had one once in a lateral quadrant with a student.  It took both of us pushing the opposite way, the student was even using his leg to push, just to keep it from rolling uncontrollably.  When I turned the Hydraulic Switch off we almost barrel rolled the opposie direction.



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Msg ID: 2717534 Airlines cancelling flights to the USA because  +5/-1     
Author:5g which may have caused this
1/19/2022 1:48:55 PM

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B407 to nose dive.  

5g is COVID-19.

Human cell are being poisoned by 5g & Covid is the cover scam.



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Msg ID: 2717535 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +2/-0     
Author:Who knows
1/19/2022 1:54:33 PM

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Bird Strick, Incapacitating the pilot or flight controls. Does the operator have GEO fencing for bird strick midigation like PHI, last flight track shows around 1500 feet and in an area that would be a hot bed for bird migration, Believe recommended flight in that area is above 2000 feet for some operations. To early to really speculat. Very sad situation 



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Msg ID: 2717561 Nobody flies at 2,000 or above over the  +4/-0     
Author:Marsh to avoid migratory birds
1/19/2022 5:27:08 PM

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or sanctuaries as indicated on the map.  The procedure for some operators is to fly no more than 100 knots over the marsh which is claimed to reduced the damage that might occur if a bird strikes the helicopter but in reality is just to gain minutes to bill the customers.  



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Msg ID: 2718416 A bird strike would leave significant evidence; guts, feces, feathers, and  +0/-0     
Author:olderendirt
1/28/2022 3:08:07 PM

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A bird strike would probably leave significant evidence: blood, guts, feces, feathers, and often the actual bird. I knew a guy who had the bird come into his lap that way. He said the bird was pretty unhappy with the helicopter ride.

I hit one at 2000' and climbing, at cruise speed. It was in the mob trailing a shrimp boat culling their catch. The carcass didn't come into the cabin through punched out TwinStar nose cone but a lot of other 'stuff' did.



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Msg ID: 2718573 A bird strike would leave significant evidence; guts, feces, feathers, and  +0/-0     
Author:3 Birdstrikes
1/29/2022 11:46:08 PM

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1 Helo low level. Buzzard hit main rotor. Very little damage.

2 Jet low level. Unknown bird medium sized hit front wind screen. Could barely see out front. Little damage.

3 Jet about 2000 AGL. Unknown medium sized bird hit horizontal tail AT NIGHT. Moderate damage on leading edge.



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Msg ID: 2717572 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +1/-0     
Author:Former Gomer
1/19/2022 8:12:10 PM

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Catastrophic component failure

Pilot heart attack 

Suicide by helicopter 

IIMC Uncontrolled Flight Into Terrain (UFIT) was wx a factor

A fellow PHI pilot had the back end of his 407 get cut off by its own tail rotor. Although the resulting nose-down was extreme, he was able to get it level before landing on the water.  In a 206 that would probably be a fatal.

The RLC pilot was fairly young, so while a physiological event can't be ruled out, it's not highly probable.

Nobody knows.  Let's hope it wasn't a catastrophic failure of some kind. Bird-strike seems like it would be high on the list of "maybe's."  We'll see.



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Msg ID: 2717573 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +1/-0     
Author:Page 2
1/19/2022 8:55:55 PM

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In a 206 that would probably be a fatal.

There was a Era 206B in the GOM in the 80's that lost everything just behind the horizontal stab and the pilot was able to get it to the water right side up. I don't think the cabin even got wet. 



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Msg ID: 2717921 What could possibly cause a Bell 407  +1/-0     
Author:Pilot
1/23/2022 9:04:27 PM

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incapacitation?  Weather event like microburst - been in one, along for the ride,yes we were lucky it didn' take us to the ground.



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