Msg ID:
2716660 |
I wasn’t there +2/-19
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Author:Two engines
1/12/2022 9:35:10 AM
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There are two engines..... what could possibly have caused this crash? From a single engine pilot perspective ... |
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Msg ID:
2716671 |
Maybe dial back that hubris +29/-1
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Author:Educator
1/12/2022 10:10:13 AM
Reply to: 2716660
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If you can't think of a single reason why a dual engine helicopter would be forced to land immediately, I'd argue you aren't worth 60k a year. |
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Msg ID:
2716676 |
Hydraulics +6/-2
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Author:Bigger helicopters
1/12/2022 10:19:18 AM
Reply to: 2716671
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Without hydraupics some helicopters are completely uncomfortable.
good enough reason to "land immediately". Also possibly a reason why it ended the way it did...
anyway, this is all just speculation. lets Wait for the report.
and for what it's worth I'll pick the twin engpine every single time over the single. |
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Msg ID:
2716687 |
Hydraulics +5/-0
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Author:Nodoginfight
1/12/2022 10:59:28 AM
Reply to: 2716676
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To my knowledge, there has never been a single hydraulic failure in 135, let alone dual fail. If one was to fail the remaining system is more than adequate to maintain full boosted flight. On other comment there is no helicopter out there that is impossible to fly with failed single hydraulic system. some pilots may not be to handle it properly thru poor technique, but all are very flyable with single failures. Wouldn't be certified otherwise. |
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Msg ID:
2716958 |
Hydraulics +0/-0
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Author:Oh, really?
1/13/2022 10:00:31 PM
Reply to: 2716687
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Try an S-55 without hydraulics. You should be able to get it to the ground, or water. But, for sure, you're not going far single pilot. |
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Msg ID:
2716991 |
Maybe dial back that hubris +0/-0
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Author:Pilot
1/14/2022 10:22:25 AM
Reply to: 2716796
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You can't turn the hydraulics off on a 135. |
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Msg ID:
2716677 |
I wasn’t there +0/-0
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Author:With A
1/12/2022 10:19:26 AM
Reply to: 2716660
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Chip light, you don't know how quickly the transmission or engine will seize up. If it's the engine that seizes, chances are that's manageable. But if main or tail rotor seizes, and you are still in cruise flight, it will probably total the aircraft and not be survivable. |
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Msg ID:
2716678 |
I wasn’t there +10/-0
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Author:You said it…
1/12/2022 10:21:37 AM
Reply to: 2716660
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You weren't there. Let the investigation play out. |
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Msg ID:
2716689 |
I wasn’t there +1/-0
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Author:hydraulics answer
1/12/2022 11:04:45 AM
Reply to: 2716681
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no, many helicopters aren't flyable without hydraulic boost. |
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Msg ID:
2716690 |
The EC135 is not flyable without hydraulics. (NT) +4/-0
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Author:Anonymous
1/12/2022 11:05:42 AM
Reply to: 2716681
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Msg ID:
2716682 |
If you can't figure out what emergencies would require to get down quick, +3/-0
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Author:you shouldn't be flying a helicopter.
1/12/2022 10:48:41 AM
Reply to: 2716660
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How did you pass a checkride? |
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Msg ID:
2716686 |
12 days into 2022, and we already have DUMBEST POST OF THE YEAR candidate +9/-0
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Author:Anonymous
1/12/2022 10:58:25 AM
Reply to: 2716660
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Perhaps the original poster isn't even a pilot, would make more sense. |
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Msg ID:
2716702 |
xmsn press zero +0/-0
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Author:one of many land immediates
1/12/2022 11:33:15 AM
Reply to: 2716660
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Stop embarrassing yourself |
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Msg ID:
2716776 |
Not in the EC135 (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Land As Soon As Possible
1/12/2022 6:57:57 PM
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Msg ID:
2716719 |
I wasn’t there +0/-0
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Author:Old 135 guy
1/12/2022 12:31:26 PM
Reply to: 2716660
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2 low fuel lights???? |
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Msg ID:
2716733 |
I wasn’t there +0/-11
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Author:Sparky
1/12/2022 2:16:17 PM
Reply to: 2716719
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There's always the chance that he took off with one engine at idle.
Then lost the good engine.
.....yeah, I'm talking to all you morons who have taken off in an ec135 with an engine at idle that we had to install a stupid box for the stupid idiot that when you pull in pitch bitching betty hollers in your ear that your engine is at idle.
More than 50 of you'uns pulled that stunt. Idiots. |
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Msg ID:
2716740 |
I wasn’t there +4/-2
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Author:Yep
1/12/2022 2:34:55 PM
Reply to: 2716733
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sure he flew per flt ware for 33 min until he had an issue & that was all on 1 eng @ idle!! I remember the one thta tried to take off from roof top @ Nazerath Hospital Pa., Crash in parking lot. Unreal Non-Sparky!! SMH! |
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Msg ID:
2716746 |
I wasn’t there +3/-1
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Author:this is an excellent example
1/12/2022 3:08:12 PM
Reply to: 2716733
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of why you should stay in your lane.
you have removed all doubt. |
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Msg ID:
2716750 |
I wasn’t there +0/-1
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Author:Mel
1/12/2022 3:51:00 PM
Reply to: 2716746
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The UH-72 is the only dual hydraulic system I've ever seen without an interlock, 135 the same? |
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Msg ID:
2716767 |
I wasn’t there +2/-1
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Author:Stay in your
1/12/2022 5:43:37 PM
Reply to: 2716746
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Lane is a millennial phrase that has no useful meaning. |
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Msg ID:
2716769 |
it's a military term and it means (NT) +1/-1
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Author:..stay in your lane
1/12/2022 6:19:24 PM
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Msg ID:
2716781 |
it's a military term and it means (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Since When?
1/12/2022 7:21:19 PM
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Msg ID:
2716786 |
Not when I was in 5he military. We made our own lanes (NT) +1/-1
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Author:Hoorah
1/12/2022 8:16:17 PM
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Msg ID:
2716855 |
Apparently there are a bunch of fakers here +1/-1
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Author:Of course its a military term
1/13/2022 11:24:40 AM
Reply to: 2716786
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means don't shoot the other guy's targets at the range... |
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Msg ID:
2716890 |
Apparently there are a bunch of fakers here +1/-1
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Author:It might be
1/13/2022 1:17:05 PM
Reply to: 2716855
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A tanker term used once. Never heard the term used at rifle range, mortar range, artillery range, gunship range, sidearm range, or any other range. Even the tankers at NTTC never used it in briefs or debriefs. In fact, they often briefed the opposite, moving in file while engaging targets off axis. |
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Msg ID:
2717240 |
I wasn’t there +0/-0
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Author:Aviation
1/15/2022 10:47:51 PM
Reply to: 2716733
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is where ur an ace or an idiot, and it take only one incident to ruin a lifetime of good work. |
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Msg ID:
2716783 |
I wasn’t there (NT) +0/-0
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Author:this was a stupid post
1/12/2022 7:42:01 PM
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Msg ID:
2716789 |
You are someone who is upset that you aren't getting attention +4/-0
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Author:Anonymous
1/12/2022 8:26:05 PM
Reply to: 2716787
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Let the NTSB do its job bro. |
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