Msg ID:
2712114 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +1/-0
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Author:Let’s Not Make A Crackpot
11/30/2021 9:38:20 AM
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Technology part of infrastructure that the public will be forced to pay for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLcqJ2DclEg
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Msg ID:
2712117 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:not sure why
11/30/2021 10:12:51 AM
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you call it crackpot tech or why you think the public will have to pay for it. |
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Msg ID:
2712133 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:Watch The Video, And Your Doubt
11/30/2021 10:42:12 AM
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Will be answered. |
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Msg ID:
2712135 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:I watched it.
11/30/2021 10:56:17 AM
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The video doesn't have a problem with the tech (the guy that made it has a Tesla). |
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Msg ID:
2712121 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +1/-0
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Author:Eddie Grant
11/30/2021 10:19:13 AM
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PROBLEM: Even if the U.S. were to magically switch over and have *all* autos become electric, the number of charging stations would have to be MORE than the current number of gas stations - mainly because of the amount of time an electric car needs to sit at the "pump." My local Tom Thumb has 16 gasoline pumps. I can zip in there, quickly add 14 gallons of ethyl to the Edsel and, 23-skidoo, I'll be on my way in a trice, leaving the pump open for the next hepcat.
In my town we only have *two* EV charging stations: a single J1772 and one CCS. The nearest Tesla Supercharging station is 40 miles away. There are only *8* supercharging stations in all of Florida. Can we imagine the traffic jam that is soon going to occur at the few stations as more and more "woke" people buy Teslas, Volts, Leafs and VW EV's as they become cheaper?
Of course, some people will be able to charge their EV's at home, but not everyone will (e.g. people who live in apartments, or those homes without driveways, etc.).
So yeah, charging infrustructure is what is going to hold up the mass proliferation of EV's. The "greenies" and governments can blather on about wanting us to get away from traditional ICE-powered cars/trucks, but without a place to quickly recharge them, it ain't a-gonna happen. |
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Msg ID:
2712128 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +1/-3
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Author:it's already happening
11/30/2021 10:37:15 AM
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You basically repeated exactly what was said in the video. As the cars become more widespread, so will the charging stations. I would imagine the all the gas stations didn't appear overnight, either. You always come up with the dumbest bullsh*t.
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Msg ID:
2712140 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +4/-0
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Author:e--Grant
11/30/2021 11:57:05 AM
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With all of the carmakers (e.g. Volkswagen) that are pledging to have "all-electric" fleets by such-and-such year (optimistically soon, in some cases), then the Big Changeover could be happening quicker than people think. So it's a legitimate concern to ask: Who's going to fund the charging stations; where will they be (and how big will they have to be); with no current standardization, what format will they be (remember the Beta or VHS competition?); AND - maybe most importantly - can our electrical infrastructure handle the increased burden? Seems to me that California's energy grid in particular is ill-equipped for a big increase in charging stations and the cars that'll need them. That's not a problem that is easily solved. Texas? They couldn't even handle a severe winter storm before their entire energy grid collapsed.
No, gas stations did not sprout up overnight, but our whole society and culture is different now and so the two scenarios are not in any way comparable. I'd love an EV, but it would have to be able to make a trip from, say, Florida to Washington State without having to stop every 100 miles for thirty minutes (or more while I wait for a charging station to open up). |
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Msg ID:
2712172 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +0/-1
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Author:uh, not so fast
11/30/2021 3:10:43 PM
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In what way is "our whole society and culture is different now" and why is it not comparable. This ought to be good. |
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Msg ID:
2712178 |
Yeah, it is good +0/-0
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Author:Sheesh
11/30/2021 3:44:53 PM
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Read a f'in' book. And not one of those "graphic novels" you're so fond of. |
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Msg ID:
2712182 |
Yeah, it is good +0/-0
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Author:okay
11/30/2021 4:57:48 PM
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I'll head down to the library and ask the librarian for books on why our whole society and culture is so different now that we can't figure out how to charge electric cars like a gas station.
See, that's the thing with you guys: you like to make word salad pronouncements and then frame them up like forgone conclusions of common knowledge hoping nobody is going to call you out on your bullsh*t. So when I pressed you on it, you tell me I need to "go read a book". And you said it was going to be good. pffft
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Msg ID:
2712134 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +0/-2
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Author:guess what
11/30/2021 10:42:40 AM
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all the cars will not be electric overnight so that might not be a problem lol |
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Msg ID:
2712136 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +0/-2
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Author:one thing, though
11/30/2021 11:08:08 AM
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I have a gas station in my garage. It's also known as an outlet. Crazy, crackpot tech! |
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Msg ID:
2712143 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +1/-0
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Author:Issues...I've got issues
11/30/2021 12:05:22 PM
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The video did not address how long it takes to charge up an EV using a 120V extension cord coming from your garage. I'd bet it takes a long time. Maybe you could use a 220V outlet like your dryer plugs into? (Oh, and what does that do to your power bill?)
You're lucky, but not all people live in houses with garages. I can't even get my car into my garage becuase of all the stupid motorcycles taking up that space. But even if you lived in, say, the Surfside Condominium complex in South Florida, and even if the garage had some EV charging stations, you couldn't exactly park your car, plug it in and then go on up to your penthouse, have a drink and forget about it until morning. All's I'm saying is that there are issues...big issues...that will have to be addressed before EV's are in widespread use here in the U.S. |
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Msg ID:
2712146 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +6/-0
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Author:Oh
11/30/2021 12:26:08 PM
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Ok Greenies, what about the short Life Limited Batteries? Where/How are you going to dispose of those toxic articles??? Or how about the toxic mess they create mining for the Batt cores?? What bout HOW the produce the power to chareg these "Green" POS's???? |
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Msg ID:
2712147 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +0/-2
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Author:I'm not sure how that all works
11/30/2021 12:32:12 PM
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but your sudden concern for the enviroment is touching bro. |
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Msg ID:
2712180 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +1/-0
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Author:Well
11/30/2021 4:48:48 PM
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The Term Bro = Total TOOL |
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Msg ID:
2712157 |
I Don't Live On Electric Avenue +1/-0
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Author:I dun tole you where the electric
11/30/2021 2:06:27 PM
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come from. that little hole in the wall. |
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Msg ID:
2712155 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:BigT
11/30/2021 1:55:22 PM
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In 1966 or 1967, GM made the Electovan and the Elecrovair fuel cell vehicles using technology created for the Gemini program. Yes, over 50 years ago, we had fuel cell vehicles. I'm sure the technology has improved, so why no focus on fuel cells? |
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Msg ID:
2712158 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +5/-1
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Author:BigT
11/30/2021 2:13:51 PM
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From whence does the electricity to power the charging stations come? Coal? Nope! Nuclear? Nope! Hydro? Nope! The communitsts are militantly against coal fired electrical generating plants. We haven't built a nuclear plant in 40-plus years. In fact, we have shut a few down (San Onofre). There is a lot of talk about removing hydro-electric dams so we can save the fish. What happens when you increase demand for electricity in the face of reduced production? Ask the people of California about their rolling brownouts. |
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Msg ID:
2712165 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +1/-2
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Author:you can also ask texas about them
11/30/2021 2:48:57 PM
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rolling brown outs too, bro. People got chilly last winter. Yeah, every where I go, people be talkibg about getting rid of the Hoover dam cuz the fish can't get to the other side and I get that. |
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Msg ID:
2712166 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +3/-0
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Author:I buy all my electricity from
11/30/2021 2:51:09 PM
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free range, grass fed power plants. |
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Msg ID:
2712171 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +1/-0
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Author:woke fish guy
11/30/2021 3:00:11 PM
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when you think about it, the dams create fish segregation and people in hipster coffee shops across the country are mobilizing. |
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Msg ID:
2712210 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:meanwhile
11/30/2021 6:27:55 PM
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Yeah, there's challenges and hurdles anytime something new is introduced...airplanes, helicopters, computers, yada yada yada. The naysayers will be just that and the world moves on in the meantime. |
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Msg ID:
2712245 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
12/1/2021 1:51:04 AM
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the world moves on with proven ideas born from genius that take hold via folks recognizing that it just works and they in turn want it. Motorcycles, airplanes. etc.
no one is moving on the ev because only the flipping idiots are spending money on them. anyone with a brain won't spend their money on that waste and instead buys a big duelly diesel to roll coal on said hipsters.
the only way an ev will ever work is if they figure out how to scale down a nuclear reactor to fit in the trunk of a car....kinda like today's submarines that have their own reactors and can run for 50 years before needing a refuel. that's the only way ev cars will ever be practical. until then you soy boys can suck on my coal. |
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Msg ID:
2712251 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:I like how you used the word said
12/1/2021 7:08:19 AM
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when you previously did mention the subject. Why do people love using the word said, especially inappropriately? |
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Msg ID:
2712283 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:You Should Change Your Forum
12/1/2021 11:37:40 AM
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Name to Said Police. |
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Msg ID:
2712296 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:it was implied
12/1/2021 2:20:50 PM
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just as it was implied that you were a soy boy.
same as it was implied that you would not necessarily suck a d!ck, but you would absoluely hold said D!ck in your mouth till the swelling went down. |
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Msg ID:
2712423 |
Electric Transport Isn’t There Yet +0/-0
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Author:wow
12/2/2021 10:50:37 AM
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you sure implied a lot bro |
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