Msg ID:
2711595 |
Extra shift pay? +3/-3
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Author:AMC/METRO/ETC...
11/23/2021 1:31:29 PM
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AMC just started offering a 250 a day incentive pay on top of the 250 they already are offering.
Some of the more smarter pilots can educate me on the economics of paying pilots a low wage, then offer national pool pilot(Rental Car, Flights, Hotels etc.) and now more pay per shift.
Why don't we pay a better wage and seek better pilots for the company.
I would like a manager and and union people to school me on why we pay such low wages, and keep the culture of HAA in the dumps. |
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Msg ID:
2711597 |
Extra shift pay? +4/-2
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Author:Pretty Simple Eh!?!!!!
11/23/2021 1:33:14 PM
Reply to: 2711595
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Because certain clowns continue to take thse low paying jobs!!!!SMH!! |
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Msg ID:
2711600 |
Extra shift pay? +2/-4
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Author:Boom!!!
11/23/2021 1:36:24 PM
Reply to: 2711597
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Well that's almost true....
I would say a lot of pilots got into HAA to not work.
If pilots flew this way in Utility Companies, and mom and pop places you would be fired.
Crappy pilots are ruining HAA because they can't go anywhere else. |
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Msg ID:
2711614 |
Extra shift pay? +2/-0
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Author:lazy pilot
11/23/2021 4:58:29 PM
Reply to: 2711600
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I like making 130k a year and only flying 200 hours. Why fly 6-8 hours a day and travel if you don't have to. Still have to put in the 12 at the base, though. |
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Msg ID:
2711704 |
Extra shift pay? +0/-0
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Author:If You Are Living In LA, SF, Or A
11/24/2021 1:34:21 PM
Reply to: 2711614
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Lot of other big coastal cities, there are people making more than you, who live in a van by the airport. |
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Msg ID:
2711607 |
Extra shift pay? +1/-3
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Author:Misinformation
11/23/2021 3:11:12 PM
Reply to: 2711595
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It did NOT say anything to the affect of $250 plus $250, that's just simply false information your spreading. Its simply a bump from $200 to $250 period not $500 all together.
In my opinion a relief / pool that requires airfare, rental, hotel, per diem costs more than two pilots combined, more close to maybe three pilots staffed at the base when you figure all of those variables stated above and include salary. "Step over a dollar to pick up a dime" or whatever that saying is. |
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Msg ID:
2711609 |
Extra shift pay? +1/-1
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Author:Wrong...
11/23/2021 3:45:45 PM
Reply to: 2711607
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The extra $200 (the correct amount), is, in fact, in addition to the extra $250. This is only for a six-week period, it is not permanent. |
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Msg ID:
2711610 |
Extra shift pay? +0/-0
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Author:Misinterpretation
11/23/2021 4:06:30 PM
Reply to: 2711609
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Read the memo again or a couple of times. |
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Msg ID:
2711623 |
Extra shift pay? +1/-0
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Author:Smigel
11/23/2021 5:49:46 PM
Reply to: 2711610
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Misinterpretation-
You're awful smug for being so wrong. It says:
"The holiday period bonus is in addition to whatever shift incentives or holiday pay are regularly earned for the period."
Meaning the new $200 is on top of the already offered $250 incentive. Go ahead and check with your RAM or Rad, we'll wait. I just met with mine yesterday and he confirmed what the rest of us are telling you, it's $450 of combined incentive pay. |
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Msg ID:
2711625 |
Extra shift pay? +1/-0
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Author:Dude. If You Are Happy To Trade
11/23/2021 5:58:57 PM
Reply to: 2711623
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Your day for whatever amount, just do it and shut up about it. One day you will find that you can never get back that day, but you can always get back whatever pittance is being offered you. |
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Msg ID:
2711629 |
If you pass up cash, you won't get it back later. (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Lost opportunity is lost opportunity
11/23/2021 6:14:51 PM
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Msg ID:
2711630 |
If you pass up cash, you won't get it back later. +0/-0
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Author:You Settle For Peanuts, When
11/23/2021 6:19:12 PM
Reply to: 2711629
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You could have doubloons. Poor thinking always carries poor lifestyle. Leave your poverty thinking behind. |
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Msg ID:
2711660 |
Meanwhile, I have peanuts and you don't have doubloons or peanuts (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
11/23/2021 10:50:51 PM
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Msg ID:
2711661 |
Meanwhile, I have peanuts and you don't have doubloons or peanuts +0/-0
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Author:The Guy With The Peanuts Is Self
11/23/2021 11:26:31 PM
Reply to: 2711660
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Assured that no one could ever possibly have doubloons. Out of envy and jealousy he refuses to allow the thought. It is a sign of frustration and bitterness having to settle for scraps, and thinking that is all there is. If it comforts you, go with it. Comfort and bitterness cannot co exist. |
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Msg ID:
2711789 |
I don't see you earning doubloons when the peanut guys (NT) +0/-0
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Author:are eating up all the OT peanuts
11/25/2021 12:22:36 AM
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Msg ID:
2711811 |
I don't see you earning doubloons when the peanut guys +0/-0
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Author:If you are happy with your peanuts
11/25/2021 10:36:36 AM
Reply to: 2711789
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Then subsist off them. I will be happy for you too, if that helps. |
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Msg ID:
2712041 |
One of the first condiments to get consumed at the partying (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
11/29/2021 12:41:28 PM
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Msg ID:
2711628 |
Extra shift pay? +0/-0
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Author:Nah
11/23/2021 6:14:11 PM
Reply to: 2711623
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It literally doesn't say any of that Smigol |
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Msg ID:
2711634 |
Extra shift pay? +1/-0
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Author:Smigel
11/23/2021 6:28:55 PM
Reply to: 2711628
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Well, I literally copied and pasted here from the email, SOOOO..... |
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Msg ID:
2711636 |
Extra shift pay? +0/-0
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Author:Ya did?
11/23/2021 6:35:32 PM
Reply to: 2711634
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No you didn't Smigol |
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Msg ID:
2711611 |
Extra shift pay? +3/-2
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Author:they pay low wages because
11/23/2021 4:26:10 PM
Reply to: 2711595
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people will work for those wages. right now they need to cover the open shifts. eventually the pay will come up, but in the meantime:it's overtime. it's not going to happen overnight.
and I don't want to fly all day like they do in utility. that's why I'm not in utility. |
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Msg ID:
2711701 |
Extra shift pay? +0/-0
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Author:You missed the point
11/24/2021 12:53:42 PM
Reply to: 2711611
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The point is- instead of offering the incentive pay - Pay a higher base salary all around and you won't have the open shift.
Another point- If you paid a higher rate you might get pilots that are more professional in manner and willing to be better employees to the company.
Just a different way of looking at things, instead of saying you make 130K a year and don't want to work anymore. That's great that being in a HAA career for 20 plus years has you pay at that rate. But with the current situation you should be around 160-200K year with all that experience.
Instead of all the pilots only going out for whats best them, maybe as a community we should raise all boats and make it a better Career and better Industry. |
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Msg ID:
2711706 |
Extra shift pay? +0/-0
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Author:That’s The Dilemma Our Founding
11/24/2021 1:36:31 PM
Reply to: 2711701
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Father's faced. If they didn't stick(hang) together, they would hang separately. |
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Msg ID:
2711766 |
Extra shift pay? +1/-0
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Author:I know the point
11/24/2021 8:08:32 PM
Reply to: 2711701
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The point is it ain't gonna happen tomorrow. It wont ever happen without a union. |
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