Does anyone have experience with this? My lead is going to start giving us "comp" days instead of paying overtime at 1.5. If we work an overtime shift we will then be given a shift off as our compensation. I have not been at Metro long but my lead is saying that this is done at many Metro bases. He says he is trying to keep overtime costs down by doing this as well. Just want to get an idea on how many bases use this because at my indoctrination nothing like this was mentioned.

Any other management. Chances are when you want that day back, you will be told there is no record of it.

I've always understood that to be a trade, I've never heard it called a comp.

I wouldn't make trade days a normal thing. Let's say the guy moves on for whatever reason, then you never get your day paid back.

Trades are probably safe, if you get it in writing and make the deal that you will get repaid your trade day in a month or two.

I would rather take the overtime.

Is 1.5 for work over.

The only time you should be trading days (1 for 1) with someone on the opposite hitch is if you are out of PTO, or you are saving your PTO for a future vacation. 

Accepting 1.0 time for work-over is going to substantially hurt your earning potential, and sets the bar lower for the entire industry.

Tell your lead pilot to pound sand.

Who works when you want your comp day? Some other sap who is paid in comp?  I'd say this is probably coming from a regional manager, not really company policy.  I'd also say no overtime pay, no work ove.

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 the heck out of me the HQ allows base lead pilots to enact such a 'policy'.  

I'd send an email to the lead and simply, and politely, say you disagree and would rather be compensated apppropriately.  The only one who is going to, if you will, win in this arrangement is the lead pilot who might be awarded some sort of favor by the company for 'holding' OT costs down.  But, if you do an OT shift and given a work shift off that means another pilot has to cover, then he has to get a shift off, then on and on.

Practically speaking, it's Horse Scheiiiit.  Sounds like an infantile lead pilot to me.

unless it is company POLICY, he CANNOT enforce that....GREAT WAY FOR YOUR BASE TO LOOSE PILOTS NOT HELPING OUT...MOST WANT THE MONEY NOT THE COMP TIME....IN our company, if you take PTO and work OT within the same Pay Period the OT is considered straight time paid.....so watch the Fkery....

and where it is in writing he can do that.....Base policy DOES NOT superceed company policy....

signed, 

A Metro Pilot....

because you will forget those days unless it is written down and what if you change bases, then what???? you just lost those days, since the next base won't honor it,.....better yet, you leave the company...they will pay you out straight time (if they even have it recorded it right) then if you actually worked OT and got 1.5

so you do workover and only get straight time (comp time), that cheats you out of A WHOLE LOTTA MONEY there.....

  Depending on how your time is accounted, Comp Time will be any hours that time exceed the 160 hour work month or 80 hour biweek based on the 40 hour work week schedule.  If you get overtime based on an 8 hour day, then even better.  Some places may give it back at the 1.5 hourly rate to equal overtime but others may only give a 1 for 1 rate.  It usually stems from a "pay" issue where overtime salaries exceed what may have been allocated for the budget (State governments in particular.)  In essence, easier to give a future day (or 1.5 day) off rather than fork out the Benjamins.  There are people in other fields that only get comp time as opposed to overtime due to those budgetary issues.  Even worse, are the ones who are told to go home early or not come in tomorrow in order to offset those extra hours they put in yesterday.  If it's not accounted for on a pay time sheet, I would avoid it.  Me personally, I would prefer the pay.      

 me personally would never work for that company - not kidding.

An organization that matter of fact in their policy application deserves the chaos they get!

  Depending on how your time is accounted, Comp Time will be any hours that time exceed the 160 hour work month or 80 hour biweek based on the 40 hour work week schedule.  If you get overtime based on an 8 hour day, then even better.  Some places may give it back at the 1.5 hourly rate to equal overtime but others may only give a 1 for 1 rate.  It usually stems from a "pay" issue where overtime salaries exceed what may have been allocated for the budget (State governments in particular.)  In essence, easier to give a future day (or 1.5 day) off rather than fork out the Benjamins.  There are people in other fields that only get comp time as opposed to overtime due to those budgetary issues.  Even worse, are the ones who are told to go home early or not come in tomorrow in order to offset those extra hours they put in yesterday.  If it's not accounted for on a pay time sheet, I would avoid it.  Me personally, I would prefer the pay.      

Don't do workovers for comp time. Shut down the base until they show you the money. 

DON'T WORK FOR FREE..... Jeezzz

As a lead pilot at Metro I can tell you that this is bull honky. We have never been told to do this, nor is it written in any manual that we can. I'm sure the Regional or even BB would like to hear about this. Our time off policies, trade policies, and PTO policies are pretty cut and dry spelled out in the employee handbook for what we can and can not do. Tell your lead to show you where it says in the policies he can do what he is trying to do and if you don't like his answer take it up the chain!

  Possibly a self serving lead?  I've flown for several different bases with two different operators (Metro included) and it's been my experience that the lead will often take responsibility and cover open shifts.  It would be interesting to know if this lead is frequently covering these comp day vacancies at 1.5 OT rate for himself.  

Then those leads should be called out for it. I very often feel responsibility to cover open shifts at my base, but definitely not due to self serving. I'd much rather be home. Metro's policies are spelled out pretty well in the handbook and I've been called out by payroll for approving overtime days without an accompanying time off request etc... So how these leads are getting away with crap like this I don't understand. Maybe I just have too much integrety then and I would never purposefully screw over the guys at my base.

Far too many Lead Pilots & RAM's going off script and making up their own rules at Metro lately.  Challenge them if anything differs from written SOP's.  I always do, upper management will shut that down quickly.

 it all legally.  Don't waste time with all the rest of the hoopla.