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Msg ID: 2708814 UH60 v S70i +1/-0     
Author:what's the difference?
10/25/2021 5:12:21 PM

Is it just marketing for foreign or public use sales v military?



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Msg ID: 2708815 UH60 v S70i +1/-0     
Author:Well
10/25/2021 5:27:50 PM

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From what I understand is they make'm over in Poland so they can sell them as civilian.



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Msg ID: 2708877 UH60 v S70i +1/-1     
Author:The difference
10/26/2021 12:18:13 AM

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The UH-60M and S-70i are basically the same helicopter ..... basically.  They have the same fuselage, drive system, and engines.  From there the US Army gets some things that aren't shall we say available on the "open market."  The UH-60M is built in the US and the S-70i in Poland.  The other major difference is that the aircraft built in Poland are not built under a FAA Production Certificate and as such are not eligible for registration on the "civil" register in the US.  Now LA County, Cal-Fire, Colorado, San Diego Fire, etc. are flying them yes but they are under "Public Use" rules.  



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Msg ID: 2709077 UH60 v S70i +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/27/2021 7:31:10 PM

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There's now a S-70M which is restricted category.



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Msg ID: 2709089 UH60 v S70i +0/-0     
Author:The difference
10/27/2021 11:42:44 PM

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The S-70M is a "paper" helicopter.  Go read TCDS H5NE specifically note 19.  Pretty clear that this is something that Sikorsky is trying to sell but has never actually built and there is a pretty long list of items that must be completed prior to them ever entering servivce.

 



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Msg ID: 2708878 UH60 v S70i +1/-0     
Author:Dope
10/26/2021 12:23:15 AM

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Uh-60 is manufactured for the military and the TC is issued under FAR 21.25(a)(2). The S70i is a civilian aircraft manufactured by Sikorsky under FAR 21.25(a)(1).



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Msg ID: 2708896 UH60 v S70i +0/-0     
Author:Yes, The Civilian Versions Don’t
10/26/2021 9:18:00 AM

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Generally need armor plating around crew and engines. They don't generally need self sealing fuel tanks, among other battle hardened systems.



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Msg ID: 2708920 UH60 v S70i +1/-1     
Author:Doh!
10/26/2021 2:39:22 PM

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One difference is price.  If you can afford a S70i, you're a goverment employee paying way too much for a Blackhawk with tax payers money.  :-)



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Msg ID: 2708945 UH60 v S70i +0/-1     
Author:Well
10/26/2021 6:25:55 PM

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Sultan of Brunei donated his S70 to FSI WPB Fl years ago for Mx training 



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Msg ID: 2710198 UH60 v S70i +0/-0     
Author:Doh!
11/9/2021 1:08:10 AM

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Note the "cargo" door.  A true Sultan of Burnei S70 in the USA...




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Msg ID: 2708969 UH60 v S70i +0/-0     
Author:Ortez
10/26/2021 9:18:48 PM

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UH-60 is a Military Ship.



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