Msg ID:
2708126 |
DUI +0/-0
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Author:Otis
10/19/2021 8:41:44 PM
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So I researched Part 61 in the FARs about this and wondering if anyone here has had any experience wit this:
Someone is pulled over for suspected OVI/DUI...refuse to take breathalyzer and get charged With OVI. Goes to court and is reduced to reclkless operation with driving priviledges suspended for 1 year. Does the refusal to comply with a BAC test affect my pilot certifcate?
Thank you
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Msg ID:
2708129 |
DUI +6/-0
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Author:Say wut
10/19/2021 9:05:03 PM
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The refusal is the least of your problems |
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Msg ID:
2708130 |
DUI +0/-0
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Author:OP
10/19/2021 9:43:33 PM
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Please explain. I wasnt convicted of OVI...just reckless op |
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Msg ID:
2708134 |
To the OP +12/-0
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Author:FAR
10/19/2021 9:57:15 PM
Reply to: 2708130
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Read FAR 61.15 and 61.16. They are your friend. At best your certificates can be suspended for a year. At worst, revoked. Seek legal and medical help from professional. Don't listen to us dumbputts on this forum. |
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Msg ID:
2708135 |
DUI +2/-0
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Author:being charged with or
10/19/2021 9:59:11 PM
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convicted of is almost the same thing in the eyes of the FAA and most employers. |
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Msg ID:
2708137 |
You're boinked (NT) +1/-1
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Author:See you in a year
10/19/2021 10:43:30 PM
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Msg ID:
2708138 |
DUI +2/-0
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Author:Lawyer up
10/19/2021 10:45:30 PM
Reply to: 2708126
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You were arrested when you declined the breathalyzer, and your driver's license was suspended. It was an alcohol related suspension, which makes it a motor vehicle action according to 61.15. Regardless of what the court rules after the fact, you are required to notify the FAA within 60 days of that event.
Your dumb azz probably didn't report it, and now you're hoping someone on here will tell you that you are ok. Nope. When you apply for your next medical, your driving records will be pulled. It will show a suspension, and if the FAA was not notified as per 61.15, your cert will be suspended.
An arrest for suspected DUI, or even an actual conviction, is not always a career ender... if you report it and jump through all the hoops for the FAA. But if you try to hide it (or have multiple motor vehicle actions), your cert will be suspended.
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Msg ID:
2708139 |
DUI (NT) +3/-0
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Author:Check with AOPA med folks
10/19/2021 10:52:07 PM
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Msg ID:
2708244 |
DUI +1/-0
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Author:Agree with you
10/20/2021 5:11:55 PM
Reply to: 2708139
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The AOPA medical ans legal service is a muct if you fly for a living! They cost less than $200 a year and coud be invaluable in situstions like this!
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Msg ID:
2708142 |
DUI +0/-0
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Author:sadasd
10/19/2021 11:28:26 PM
Reply to: 2708126
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It is referred to a "wet reckless". Just be honest about it. Maybe consult with AOPA legal to ensure all is fine. Mine was over 20 years ago, but I was honest about it, and has not affected me.... |
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Msg ID:
2708144 |
DUI +1/-0
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Author:Link
10/20/2021 12:18:58 AM
Reply to: 2708126
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Read the Below and note the legal terms. The question is;
Were you operating the vehicle under the influence?
Were you convicted for or have an administrative action taken against you as the result of drugs or alcohol?
Get an attorney ASAP and say nothing to the FAA until you get advice.
Should you refuse to take a breathalyzer? - AOPA
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Msg ID:
2708147 |
Gulf of Mexico pilot? Ask management of your +20/-1
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Author:Company since most of them been
10/20/2021 1:38:27 AM
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there, done that and will buy your next drink for you. Any National Guard Pilots who were prior Regular Army who got the boot outta the RA for DUI, DWI later joined the NG & later into the GOM, and some into your management. Half of your GOM pax have at least 2 DUI's... it's a badge of honor & highly respected. Ain't the GOM grand? Lot's of aforementioned good advice above. Could always upgrade yourself into management. |
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Msg ID:
2708148 |
DUI +3/-0
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Author:So
10/20/2021 2:36:21 AM
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You can no longer drive an automobile unless it is equipped with an intoxilock device but piloting an aircraft should be A-ok? Think about that. But then again, I've known many A&P's with multiple DUI's working at Bistreaux with no problem. Would you want to fly the aircraft he/she last worked on? Best of luck. |
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Msg ID:
2708172 |
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE IDIOTS +2/-1
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Author:Look here
10/20/2021 9:03:45 AM
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Contact an aviation attorney ASAP. They will stop you from screwing things completely up for yourself. |
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Msg ID:
2708184 |
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE IDIOTS +0/-0
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Author:get an attorney if you want
10/20/2021 9:27:16 AM
Reply to: 2708172
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but it probably won't change any outcome. I would start with the AOPA, though. Not a career ender but it will slow things down, The only thing that will really help is time. Report if you haven't. You are required to. |
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Msg ID:
2708185 |
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS IDIOT EITHER +1/-1
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Author:Anonymous
10/20/2021 9:28:36 AM
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get a ***** aviation attorney. |
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Msg ID:
2708194 |
DUI (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Ame
10/20/2021 10:16:17 AM
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Msg ID:
2708213 |
DUI +1/-0
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Author:the way this works
10/20/2021 12:34:51 PM
Reply to: 2708194
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you refused to test. the FAA sees a refusal the same way they see a DUI: no bueno, compadre. a lawyer cannot argue with the FAA on whether you refused to test since it's a fact. this is more of a medical matter than a legal matter. a lawyer may be able to help you if your certificate gets denied but for now, I'd just consult with the AOPA. |
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Msg ID:
2708226 |
DUI +0/-0
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Author:cheap
10/20/2021 2:19:17 PM
Reply to: 2708213
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Change your name.Then go to a lacal flea market and make some new licenses. |
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Msg ID:
2708316 |
DUI +0/-0
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Author:U phucd up
10/21/2021 11:18:56 AM
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Get a ready for year off minimum and some hard introspective assessment and work if you want to make it back. Accept that you need to change and do your best. Good luck. |
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Msg ID:
2708321 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:one dui will probably not mean
10/21/2021 12:01:43 PM
Reply to: 2708316
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one day off from flying. it sure as hell ain't gonna be no year |
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Msg ID:
2708408 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:Go get one and find out
10/21/2021 11:15:00 PM
Reply to: 2708321
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That's not true, a lifetime of monitoring, years of review and intensive testing, but don't let us that have been throught the program stop you. |
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Msg ID:
2708417 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:How hard are the tests
10/22/2021 7:22:41 AM
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and how do they monitor you. |
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Msg ID:
2708419 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:Been there done that
10/22/2021 8:30:26 AM
Reply to: 2708417
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Twice yearly Medicals , peer pilot assessment , random testing by remote breathalyzer anytime. Peth testing, psychiatric assessments each year. Monthly aftercare reports from a specialislist substance abuse counselor. That's only after you get through 'treatment' and have to wait 3-7 months for a special issuance medical to be re-issued.
It used to be a minimum of three years and then a gradual step down, that was changed last year and now permanent monitoring is the way.
I've met pilots who got busted on boats, bikes, golf carts, every which way you can. A DWI is not the only way.
The best part is, if you're actively employed at the time they will revoke every certificate and rating.
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Msg ID:
2708422 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:all that from
10/22/2021 9:24:14 AM
Reply to: 2708419
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one dui? get real bro. you are a repeat offender sounds like. surprised you have a medical at all |
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Msg ID:
2708425 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:Go get one and find out
10/22/2021 10:08:34 AM
Reply to: 2708422
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Nope, that's a single DUI. Go get and one and tell us how it works out. Better yet go to a 'Birds of a feather meeting' and ask there bro.
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Msg ID:
2708439 |
DUI +0/-1
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Author:say wut
10/22/2021 2:21:33 PM
Reply to: 2708419
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"I've met pilots who got busted on boats, bikes, golf carts, every which way you can. A DWI is not the only way."
I have never met even one pilot that had a DUI in 20 years of flying.
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Msg ID:
2708442 |
DUI +1/-1
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Author:Have You Met Any Good And
10/22/2021 2:59:21 PM
Reply to: 2708439
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Defensive drivers in your 20 years of driving? Because there are some very offensive drivers out there;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eNczmWcVaQ
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Msg ID:
2708444 |
DUI +0/-2
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Author:yeah well
10/22/2021 3:09:13 PM
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they were sober |
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