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Msg ID: 2707002 Part 91 ops 16h duty days +0/-2     
Author:sounds illegal to me
10/12/2021 8:01:31 AM

A friend of mine works for a part91 operator flying type 1 firefighting helicopters. According to their manuals he is allowed to work 16h duty days. If he hits two 16h days in a row his third day is limited to 14h, afterwards he's back to 16h/day. How can that be legal?



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Msg ID: 2707055 Part 91 ops 16h duty days +1/-0     
Author:Utility flying
10/12/2021 1:53:52 PM

Reply to: 2707002
Yes that is legal. However unlikely. The forest service limits pilots to 8 hours in the seat. It is very common to to be on standby for 14 hours. As long as 8 hours flight time are not exceeded within that 14. Add another hour driving to and from the helicopter and 15-16 hour days are normal.
Now in other areas of part 91 there is no duty time limit. I have personally logged 15 hours in the seat doing power line work in one day. Often in the summer months 8 to 12 hours in the seat are common.


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Msg ID: 2707119 Part 91 ops 16h duty days +1/-0     
Author:Be
10/12/2021 10:35:07 PM

Reply to: 2707055

careful to think about what can be ajudicated as 'careless and reckless'.

Don't think it can't happen.



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Msg ID: 2707135 Standby? If I can't have a beer, I'm working. +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/13/2021 5:18:00 AM

Reply to: 2707002

Long days at a small hourly rate is the key to real profitability.



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Msg ID: 2707143 Standby? If I can't have a beer, I'm working. +0/-0     
Author:Part 91
10/13/2021 8:57:18 AM

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I once logged 12 hours in a helicopter in a single day... didn't realize it till after I ended up in the hotel and was logging my flight. 

after each landing I would take a photo of the MFD that would keep track of flight time between landings. And cycles. 
I had to double check to confirm... but yup, 12 hours flight time.



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