| Msg ID: 2706478 |
407 to 109 +0/-1
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| Author:mac attack
10/7/2021 7:18:57 PM |
moving from 10+ years in the 407 to 109s...what the low down on them? |
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| Msg ID: 2706481 |
407 to 109 +1/-2
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| Author:New nicknamr
10/7/2021 7:35:24 PM Reply to: 2706478 |
New sunglassses, Italian leather flight jacket, you'll be set. |
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| Msg ID: 2706482 |
407 to 109 +5/-1
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| Author:Well
10/7/2021 7:44:27 PM Reply to: 2706481 |
POS, Reliability POS, Support Completely POS, Need anymore? FACTS Fraud Book Checkers too!! |
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| Msg ID: 2706484 |
407 to 109 +5/-0
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| Author:109
10/7/2021 7:51:38 PM Reply to: 2706478 |
Fast, cramped, fun, honest, nice flying machine! |
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| Msg ID: 2706485 |
407 to 109 +3/-1
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| Author:Not a bad aircraft
10/7/2021 8:29:45 PM Reply to: 2706484 |
pretty reliable, fun to fly. Hard to keep in trim. Autopilot is not great. Lots of power. Looks sexy as eff and fast. Anybody that tells you otherwise has never flown it. |
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| Msg ID: 2706492 |
407 to 109 +3/-1
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| Author:looks sexy
10/7/2021 9:16:02 PM Reply to: 2706485 |
tired of all this sexy italian euro trash. just give me something that won't break after every 0.25 flight hour.... |
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| Msg ID: 2706495 |
407 to 109 +1/-4
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| Author:like I said
10/7/2021 9:31:28 PM Reply to: 2706492 |
anybody that says it's not as reliable as anything else has no experience in it or more than likely, no aviation experience. very little unscheduled mx |
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| Msg ID: 2706534 |
407 to 109 +1/-0
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| Author:Retired, NO JOB
10/8/2021 12:15:47 PM Reply to: 2706484 |
Yes to all of the abouve, especially "cramped." I'm 5'10" and it's the only helicopter I've flown where I was still felling "cramped" in, even with the seat all the way back and the pedals extended all the way! Also, as was mentioned by someone, the autopilot tended to kick off unexpectedly. Ours was anolog so maybe the digital ones are better. |
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| Msg ID: 2706569 |
407 to 109 +2/-0
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| Author:Ancient engineering
10/8/2021 9:41:46 PM Reply to: 2706478 |
Is it still using that antiquated,maintenance intensive, tail rotor Or have they joined the rest of the world with elasto bearings? |
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| Msg ID: 2706669 |
407 to 109 +2/-0
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| Author:Keep
10/9/2021 9:53:39 PM Reply to: 2706478 |
all the hatches and latches secure, know the hydraulic system and squat switch interaction especially with marginal pressure before liftoff, keep the swash plate well lubricated (drastically reduces the four per rev), and at a minimum keep the tail rotor balanced within 25 hours or sooner. Fail the last one and you definitely risk losing the tail rotor - you've been warned. Over 2,000 hours in it, lots of fun. |
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| Msg ID: 2706676 |
407 to 109 +0/-0
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| Author:TD
10/9/2021 11:05:31 PM Reply to: 2706669 |
Any tail rotor that requires balance check that often has some bad design issues. |
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| Msg ID: 2706689 |
407 to 109 +1/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
10/10/2021 7:45:27 AM Reply to: 2706676 |
Turn the pedals around and they say Bell on the backside of them...
The 407 and the 109 are some of the only aircraft that will still lift vertically when at max GW. The 109E will do it on one engine so pay attention to the switches.
The 109 autopilot will violently kick off and roll you if you get below 48kts or so so if you are shooting an ILS, make sure your are engaged in the approach mode and not in altitude hold. |
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| Msg ID: 2707290 |
407 to 109 +0/-0
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| Author:a109 5 yrs
10/14/2021 11:01:27 AM Reply to: 2706689 |
You can absolutely not OEI OGE climb a 109E at MGW. at 142% total tq youre sitting at 71% per engine AEO. you will not climb that at 3000KG in the winter at sea level. |
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| Msg ID: 2708304 |
407 to 109 +0/-0
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| Author:ya wrong
10/21/2021 9:00:39 AM Reply to: 2707290 |
will do it. ive done it in it |
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| Msg ID: 2706764 |
407 to 109 +1/-0
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| Author:Delta
10/10/2021 6:33:29 PM Reply to: 2706676 |
hinge. Pretty much one of the first designs, that is if Agustas still have them. |
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| Msg ID: 2707211 |
407 to 109 +0/-0
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| Author:Veteran 109 guy
10/13/2021 4:58:29 PM Reply to: 2706478 |
Maint heavy...lousy AOG process from Leonardo...FAST Find some mechanics who worked them.... |
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