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2705375 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +4/-12
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Author:OneBurnin
9/29/2021 2:11:28 PM
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Looks like CalFire had an engine flameout on one of their new SUPER powerful Firehawks. Despite being at sea level and 6000lbs below max gross... they couldn't hover (let alone fly away) and dropped the poor fella on the hoist. Glad there were no serious injuries.
Really awesome that everyone thinks 2 engines is better than 1. Did CalFire ever even have an engine failure on their Hueys?
https://www.safecom.gov/safecom/21-0993
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Msg ID:
2705379 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +6/-6
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Author:it would have been way more better
9/29/2021 2:32:11 PM
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if it was a single and they all crashed to the ground. good thinking bro |
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Msg ID:
2705382 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +3/-5
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Author:bro
9/29/2021 2:47:59 PM
Reply to: 2705379
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totally missed the point bro |
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Msg ID:
2705385 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +4/-6
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Author:okay
9/29/2021 2:52:27 PM
Reply to: 2705382
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look at what the outcome was versus what the outcome would have been with a single. I'm all ears |
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Msg ID:
2705512 |
I agree with brotard. I hate having a #2 eng. failure +1/-2
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Author:Ain’t no number 2 engine bro
9/30/2021 11:34:29 AM
Reply to: 2705389
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in a Huey. just the engine |
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Msg ID:
2705526 |
Well done! +0/-2
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Author:the title of the thread
9/30/2021 12:56:54 PM
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indicates the firehawk replaced singles otherwise why complain bro |
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Msg ID:
2705392 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +2/-1
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Author:hueys have poor OEI performance
9/29/2021 3:07:14 PM
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but tell me your point I missed |
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Msg ID:
2705395 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +4/-0
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Author:Hueys Have The Best Autorotation
9/29/2021 3:10:05 PM
Reply to: 2705392
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Performance of just about any helicopter. Blackhawks, not so much. |
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Msg ID:
2705396 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-6
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Author:so what
9/29/2021 3:13:43 PM
Reply to: 2705395
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at a hover, you're going straight down |
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Msg ID:
2705457 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +1/-1
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Author:In A Hover, A Huey Has Enough
9/29/2021 10:57:17 PM
Reply to: 2705396
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Rotor inertia to set down from a hover, pick up back to a 3' hover, and set back down again softly. So, not straight down as you claim. |
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Msg ID:
2705459 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-1
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Author:yeah, we've all heard that but
9/29/2021 11:06:01 PM
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so what bro. I was waiting for some dummy to bring that up like it matters. Ever tried that huey hover thing? |
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Msg ID:
2705466 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +2/-0
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Author:Are You The Straight Down Guy?
9/30/2021 12:08:00 AM
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Because if you are, you should shut up from total ignorance. |
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Msg ID:
2705473 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-0
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Author:yep
9/30/2021 2:26:41 AM
Reply to: 2705459
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was demonstrated by IP at ft rucker then I gave it a whirl. lots of inertia in those big ol blades.
there were helicopters before robbies, you know? |
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Msg ID:
2705475 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-0
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Author:beets
9/30/2021 4:10:33 AM
Reply to: 2705457
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Huey would hover at flight idle. That accounts for the "pick back up after hovering auto". |
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Msg ID:
2705486 |
Good thing they had a second engine... (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Do You Mean Ground Idle?
9/30/2021 8:20:56 AM
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Msg ID:
2705419 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +3/-2
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Author:OneBurnin
9/29/2021 5:43:29 PM
Reply to: 2705379
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I'm pretty confident I could have replicated that exact flight path in a Huey AEO. Let the dope on the rope smack the ground, cut him loose as you come forward and into your auto flare. Probably would have kept the RRPM higher than the Hawk did too. |
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Msg ID:
2705461 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-1
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Author:lol
9/29/2021 11:09:04 PM
Reply to: 2705419
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yeah sure bro I'm pretty sure you could have too. "AEO" love that too |
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Msg ID:
2705493 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +2/-0
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Author:I Like Having All Engines
9/30/2021 9:40:54 AM
Reply to: 2705461
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Operative as well. Why would you have bitterness about that? |
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Msg ID:
2705437 |
But upgrading to twins costs zero dollars +3/-0
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Author:flashing white power?
9/29/2021 8:05:53 PM
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hahaha |
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Msg ID:
2705458 |
But upgrading to twins costs zero dollars +0/-0
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Author:Sending The Okay For The FBI
9/29/2021 10:59:08 PM
Reply to: 2705437
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And antifa to infiltrate;
https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/fbi-informant-and-antifa-invited-to-jan-6-insurrection-to-take-trump-out/
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Msg ID:
2705421 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +1/-0
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Author:Should have bought chinooks
9/29/2021 6:31:53 PM
Reply to: 2705375
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I don't understand why all these states are buying firehawks. A chinook will lift 4 times what they can and will fly single engine no problem. |
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Msg ID:
2705450 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-0
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Author:gringo
9/29/2021 10:01:01 PM
Reply to: 2705375
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good thing he had two engines or the outcome would have been different
my question is, why were there 5 people onboard for a training flight |
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Msg ID:
2705495 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-1
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Author:Engine failure in a single
9/30/2021 10:18:48 AM
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May be ok in a twin non event
. Just fly away maybe a running landing. |
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Msg ID:
2705513 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +4/-0
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Author:Jealousy
9/30/2021 11:37:32 AM
Reply to: 2705375
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#1 It looks like the pilot and flight crew did an awesome job.
#2 If that same engine out scenario happened in a huey in the middle of a hoist operation, a lot more people would have beeen going to the hospital.
#3 Yes they have had engine failures in the hueys. Luckily their pilots are on top of things and have always Done a good job with bad situations like this.
#4 What is your problem? Are you just Ignorant, or do you have an issue with CalFire? |
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Msg ID:
2705520 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-0
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Author:I would say both.
9/30/2021 11:58:06 AM
Reply to: 2705513
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in what fantasy world would a Heuy have been a more safe aircraft in a engine failure during hoisting. Oh, yeah: he would have been able to fly away with better RPM in a Huey lol. the guy on the rope probably gets killed but oh well |
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Msg ID:
2705523 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +2/-1
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Author:Yep
9/30/2021 12:14:06 PM
Reply to: 2705513
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His problem W/Calfire probably either got fired or never hired |
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Msg ID:
2705535 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +3/-3
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Author:OneBurnin
9/30/2021 4:00:54 PM
Reply to: 2705513
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No problem with CalFire, just like pointing out that two engines isn't the solution to all helicopter problems. The dual engine crowd sure likes crapping on singles when one has an engine failure.
My wife says that I'm ignorant all the time, so that's probably a fact. But I do have enough experience with hawks to have had a dual engine rollback while flying them. So not too terribly ignorant to the topic at hand... |
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Msg ID:
2705538 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-0
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Author:If you’re not ignorant
9/30/2021 4:21:35 PM
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why do you say such stupid things bro |
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Msg ID:
2705546 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +1/-0
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Author:Well
9/30/2021 5:28:44 PM
Reply to: 2705538
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He said his wife says he's ignorant & he agreed!! BRO= Total TOOL!! Give it up! SMH!!! |
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Msg ID:
2705571 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +1/-1
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Author:well okay
9/30/2021 9:31:08 PM
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we can all agree on that lol |
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Msg ID:
2705827 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +2/-0
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Author:Naive
10/3/2021 7:58:46 AM
Reply to: 2705375
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post, like many here n JH, but it serves as a point for discussion. Single engine helicopter flame out with man on hoist leads to possible helicopter landing on hoistee. |
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Msg ID:
2706075 |
But singles have engine failures half as often +1/-0
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Author:There’s
10/4/2021 3:26:18 PM
Reply to: 2705840
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play time logic, then there's down right serious logic involving consequences. |
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Msg ID:
2705841 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +0/-0
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Author:the problem is
10/3/2021 10:30:08 AM
Reply to: 2705827
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that someone actually thinks we're supposed to have a discussion about single vs twin in hoisting operations. |
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Msg ID:
2706077 |
Good thing they had a second engine... +1/-0
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Author:Your
10/4/2021 3:27:19 PM
Reply to: 2705841
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time will come, keep pluggin'. |
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