We succesfully negotiated that no pilot needs to take a patient on a flight if it goes over 12 hours. All AMC pilots will be immune to being fired as long as they work a full 12 hour shift. Beyond that is up to you, optional. 

If they can't use one excuse, they will use another.

I'd say that's a basis to investigate intimidation.

Wow what a win! Lol hope that was worth all the union dues... lol hilarious 

a pretty big deal in my book. 

a real winner

Unions suck but ur salary would suck worse if not for them

IWII

Keeps you from having to do extra busy work to cover for worthless managers and MedCrews. No requirement to stay after for a meeting or whine session. No forced to work a shift then go take a pee test. This is a huge win for the union. I don't think your anti union troll post will go as planned. You can always volunteer to work later if you want though I hear the pilots say you are I'm your car at the 12 hour mark at Tampa airport and don't even do shift change anyway and that you always find a treason time turn a late flight down... 

I haven't heard from the Union, except about the COVID vaccine. When will this info be given to the pilots?

Union referenced it in last email as a reminder

QUOTE: "A normal schedule shift "SHALL NOT" exceed twelve (12) hours."

Section 16.7

To facilitate customer and Company needs the oncoming Pilot will be duty-ready, as defined in
Appendix A, Section 9, at the beginning of his scheduled shift.

Appendix A: 

Duty Ready: To facilitate customer and Company needs the oncoming Pilot will be duty ready
at the beginning of their scheduled shift. Duty ready is defined as being available to initiate and
conduct revenue or non-revenue flights. The expectation is that a Pilot will accomplish all
required Federal Aviation Regulation and General Operations Manual actions within the time
period that precedes their duty shift.

AMC requires pilots to show up early to check weather and pre-flight so they are "duty ready" when their shift begins and they are not paid for that time before their shift starts.

From the CBA:

Duty Ready: To facilitate customer and Company needs the oncoming Pilot will be duty ready
at the beginning of their scheduled shift. Duty ready is defined as being available to initiate and
conduct revenue or non-revenue flights. The expectation is that a Pilot will accomplish all
required Federal Aviation Regulation and General Operations Manual actions within the time
period that precedes their duty shift.

duty time starts before your shift begins, and you don't get paid for it.

Nice Union work.

The expectation is that a Pilot will accomplish all required Federal Aviation Regulation and General Operations Manual actions within the time period that precedes their duty shift.

Duty begins when a pilot clocks in 15 minutes early but pay begins when the shift starts at 7:00 and ends 12 hours later.

I think California pilots get paid for that 15 minutes preceding their shift but could be mistaken.

The Union needs to fix this problem for all AMC pilots!

12 hours starts at the top of the hour. The 15-20 minutes of getting weather, pre-flight, etc. are not included in the 12-hour shift, start before the top of the hour, and are not paid. The Union says they're working on this issue for the next contract. 

you have to be at work, you have to do actual work. and you don't get paid? 

Seems like that might be something that you would want to address at the onset. 

Quit paying dues and when they contact you tell them that you're working on it.

Complying with contract 

Preparing to be duty ready, and get injured, no workman's comp.

you're stoned

You either are on duty, or you are not. If you are not on duty, you cannot claim worker's comp for injuries. Also, if you are not on duty, your shift is extended 20-30 minutes per day on hitch. 

you are at work, performing assigned duties for the company. you don't have to punch a clock for them to be responsible. 

have a good time

no body of labor law that makes working for someone or company not a compensible event.  Couch it how you like, if ur not getting paid for all your time on behalf of ur employer it needs to seriously be reviewed by real attorneys who know what they're looking at.  I don't know any here on JH so beware of the responses.

AMC did not compensate pilots for time worked before their scheduled shift until they were sued in California. Time spent preflighting (which was required by AMC) showed on a pilot's timesheet as 15 minutes preflight "UNPAID". 

In May 2020, AMC began paying California pilots for 15 minutes of preflight and no more than that, regardless of when the pilot shows up. So if you clock in 25 minutes early, you only get paid for 15 minutes. It shows up on your timesheet as "PREFLIGHT, 15 minutes"

Your pay ends when your scheduled shift ends even if you stay a bit longer. Your timesheet shows "Shift, 12 hours". If you clock out later, a manager will change it to reflect 12 hours unless you were on a flight or had a meeting, etc.

airline pilots, under law, should be paid when working under their circumstance you cite.  Just because it appears they don't doesn't make it correct and doesn't represent a legal precedent.

on duty which means start of shift and compensible.

the company want to, probably they looked at the whole thing and decided to do so based on the potential adverse consequences that could have snowballed across the pilot cadre and years of compensation behavior - a Pandora's box sort of thing.

Not sure how the union fits into private law suits with respect to jurisdiction.  I suspect being a union member does not disallow private litigation they fail to undertake.  Lots of points of view.

real careful about whether state law isn't applicable.  I get your point, but never say never is actually a practice in legal circles!

Work is referred to as "Donning and doffing". The companies refused to pay the time in preparation for work by employees. Tha5 is until they were forced to by lawsuit. You don't want that lawsuit to prevail and then include back pay.

Make precedent for all industries.