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Msg ID: 2703257 My instructor today.... +3/-5     
Author:well.....
9/13/2021 1:03:31 AM

Go easy on me, yes i'm a girl. My instructor was teaching me to hover and it was hot so we didnt have the power to get off the ground and needed to do a running takeoff. He said it'd be okay because our fuel burn would give us enough power to hover later on after the flight for the landing. (R22)

On the takeoff he started to move the collective up and down slightly probably around ten times. During which he said you have to "milk it up". He said it was like going for "round three" and that it wont come up on it's own so you have to "pump it to get it up". The whole lesson he called the ship a "she". Is that normal?

I feel really weird about this. I only have 21.7 hours. What should I do?



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Msg ID: 2703259 My instructor today.... +11/-1     
Author:Time to
9/13/2021 1:34:57 AM

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Get a new instructor


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Msg ID: 2703263 My instructor today.... +2/-0     
Author:anony
9/13/2021 7:54:17 AM

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If it wont pull into an in ground effect hover then you shouldn't fly it.  You are either over gross weight or you may have an issue with the aircraft not making proper power or I've seen instrumentation errors where it says the manifold pressure is higher than what it really is so you are stopping short on the collective pull when there is more to pull.  While the running takeoff is a good skill to have, outside of certainly scenarios you shouldnt need to use it to get the aircraft airbourne if everything else is good.  How much do you and your instructor weigh? Does he show you the weight and balance for your flights? You should be covering WB by now in your ground school.



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Msg ID: 2703265 My instructor today.... +2/-0     
Author:Troll Alert
9/13/2021 8:36:28 AM

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Good answer to an obvious troll. 



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Msg ID: 2703268 My instructor today.... +6/-1     
Author:Gold Seal CFII
9/13/2021 9:02:32 AM

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I don't know about the rest but if your instructor calls a helicopter a ship you are obligated burn the place to the ground and salt the earth where it stood so the land shall stay barren for 100 years



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Msg ID: 2703280 That technique hasn't kept the weeds from growing in the rock (NT) +0/-0     
Author:garden of my church
9/13/2021 10:08:10 AM

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Msg ID: 2703311 That technique hasn't kept the weeds from growing in the rock +0/-0     
Author:you need
9/13/2021 11:07:31 AM

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more salt



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Msg ID: 2703349 My instructor today.... +0/-0     
Author:OP
9/13/2021 12:37:31 PM

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PUMP IT hahahahaha



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Msg ID: 2703271 My instructor today.... +0/-1     
Author:I have found it difficult
9/13/2021 9:09:49 AM

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to hover if you can't take off in the first place but then again I have never flown a ship



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Msg ID: 2703275 I have to say... +2/-0     
Author:The Trollmeister
9/13/2021 9:34:43 AM

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As trolls go, this one is pretty good :) 



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Msg ID: 2703284 I have to say... +1/-0     
Author:OP
9/13/2021 10:20:39 AM

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Thank you, kind Sir. 



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Msg ID: 2703286 I have to say... +3/-1     
Author:A good troll
9/13/2021 10:23:37 AM

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needs to be at least somewhat believable.



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Msg ID: 2703278 Snatch your blouse open and wave'em. That should get it up. (NT) +1/-0     
Author:R D Nekk
9/13/2021 10:06:14 AM

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Msg ID: 2703281 My instructor today.... +2/-0     
Author:How Big A Gal Are You
9/13/2021 10:09:24 AM

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Do you need a seat belt extension? Did your instructor say you would have trouble hovering solo?



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Msg ID: 2703353 Go back to sleep HAAP! (NT) +0/-0     
Author:We're not buying it.
9/13/2021 12:45:52 PM

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Msg ID: 2703401 My instructor today.... +3/-1     
Author:Time
9/13/2021 5:07:26 PM

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   For an instructor change.  Sounds like a heavily loaded Vietnam trick, which we did use, but only when necessary under combat conditions (aka a heavily loaded gunship doing a running takeoff).  Teaching a 21.7 hour student garbage like that is not excusable.



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Msg ID: 2703404 My instructor today.... +1/-4     
Author:The Only Way You Can Even
9/13/2021 5:14:45 PM

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Attempt a running takeoff in a skid equipped turbine helicopter that won't hover at max power is by overtorquing it. That won't work in a recip, since you will end up under speeding the main rotor.



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Msg ID: 2703473 My instructor today.... +1/-1     
Author:OP
9/13/2021 9:47:16 PM

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fake news



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Msg ID: 2703649 My instructor today.... +1/-0     
Author:You’ve
9/15/2021 9:33:26 AM

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Got some ideas there but they need refinement.  Good luck.



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Msg ID: 2703934 My instructor today.... (NT) +0/-0     
Author:anonymous
9/16/2021 2:04:07 PM

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Msg ID: 2703965 My instructor today.... +0/-0     
Author:Sounds like you flew
9/16/2021 10:10:18 PM

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guns in Vietnam - not.  



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Msg ID: 2704074 My instructor today.... +0/-0     
Author:Pronouns
9/17/2021 9:38:52 PM

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My ship prefers to be called "they".



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