Msg ID:
2701794 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +5/-5
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Author:Senior Pilot
9/2/2021 4:02:30 PM
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Have been applying with all the major HAA operators, received in person interview with one, phone interviews with the rest - don't say it, Junior, my quals exceed yours ten fold, I've forgotten more than you will ever know!
Ok, I'm 65....Class II med, good health, still pumping iron, no health issues, retired Army CWO, 10 years in HEMS, no accidents or issues - no offers. Tons of jobs available, who's filling these slots, then?
Like I said, sounds like age discrimination....fire away, Junior!!
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Msg ID:
2701795 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking (NT) +3/-0
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Author:Amazon will hire you
9/2/2021 4:04:18 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Msg ID:
2701796 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking (NT) +0/-7
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Author:nobody cares grandpa
9/2/2021 4:07:39 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Msg ID:
2701800 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +2/-4
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Author:Junior
9/2/2021 4:24:12 PM
Reply to: 2701796
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Well I know my airspace, so if you have forgotten that I wouldn't hire you either! |
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Msg ID:
2701801 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-5
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Author:Junior
9/2/2021 4:24:44 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Time for you to retire and collect social security old man. |
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Msg ID:
2701807 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +3/-1
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Author:you man bun bastatds
9/2/2021 4:50:15 PM
Reply to: 2701801
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keep it coming, warthogs....forgot to mention, combat veteran
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Msg ID:
2701833 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +1/-0
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Author:Junior
9/2/2021 7:27:29 PM
Reply to: 2701807
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Calm down old man and drink your ensure. |
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Msg ID:
2701805 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +7/-0
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Author:Anonymous
9/2/2021 4:35:36 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Those shiny new pilots they like to hire are "easier to manage."
They're just happy logging turbine time! |
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Msg ID:
2701814 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +5/-0
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Author:CP
9/2/2021 5:51:48 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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I'm an equal opportunity discriminator. I don't hire anyone who thinks they know everything, 25 or 65. |
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Msg ID:
2701815 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +11/-0
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Author:old too
9/2/2021 5:52:34 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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The openings are there. If you are qualified, someone will hire you. Unfortunately some of your peers have not distinguished themselves. We just had one quit during training. He was out of the industry awhile, had a lot of outside irons in the fire, and halfway just decided it wasn't for him. I worked with 2 older (than you) guys. Great guys, great pilots, great experience. But "forgotten more than you know" was not just a saying. They both earned their way into retirement, and the band wasn't playing. No matter how good you were, sometimes it's time to go. We have had some older pilots come through, who flat didn't know it in the first place, and they forgot the rest. We had an older relief pilot come through, the crews (yes, melodramatic as they are) had more close calls in the week he was here than the last 5 years with the base pilots. He also had this chronic cough, they thought he would die on duty at any time.
Frankly employers are afraid you don't have it anymore, or even if you do, that you will walk sooner than later (probably the bigger fear). If you have 10 years experience, someone knows you. Is there something in your reputation that precedes you? Also, the "All hail my greatness" comes through on your post. Is that coming through on your interview? It is ok to think it, just need to dial it back for the interview. You want to show confidence, not arrogance.
If you are not a troll, good luck to you. |
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Msg ID:
2701837 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Senior Pilot
9/2/2021 8:01:54 PM
Reply to: 2701815
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Some interesting thoughts, thanks.... |
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Msg ID:
2701820 |
Maybe it is you. Are you an A H ole ? (NT) +0/-0
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Author:not age.
9/2/2021 6:17:11 PM
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Msg ID:
2701823 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:pilot
9/2/2021 6:47:48 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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I've got 30yrs in the helicopter industry. Based on the limited info I have (your post), I'm almost certain the problem is your attitude, not your qualifications. Every employer hires fully qualified people that they think will contribute to their work environment. "Most" qualified is meaningless compared to fully qualified and pleasant to work with. It's probably not age, it's probably that arrogant and grumpy easily shows up in an interview and you earn yourself a no thanks. Good luck though, keep trying and someone will hire you. |
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Msg ID:
2701840 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Senior Pilot
9/2/2021 8:19:41 PM
Reply to: 2701823
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Again, more good thoughts.....and, mature and experienced does not automatically correlate to bad attitude- unless that one nurse who is offended by everything gets on your case and won't let it go.....anybody ever have one of those? Most or more qualified is established in the resume and flight hour breakdown, it's not fake . I may keep applying, probably not....too many turn downs gets "old"....get it? LOLOL!!
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Msg ID:
2701830 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +3/-0
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Author:Mngr
9/2/2021 7:07:15 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Sorry "Captain", but you come across like a rusted bolt. Not going to be easy to work with and too set in your ways. |
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Msg ID:
2701834 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Sound like most retired military guys
9/2/2021 7:28:55 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Your attitude sucks and you have a major chip on your shoulder. You are not gods gift to aviation, youre a d-bag who needs to retire. |
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Msg ID:
2701841 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +2/-0
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Author:sound like most bigots
9/2/2021 8:29:43 PM
Reply to: 2701834
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But that's fine because everyone in a certain group is the same, right? No need to treat people case by case.
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Msg ID:
2701848 |
Actually the Law Says… +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
9/2/2021 8:57:47 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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...that they can't discriminate based on age, until you get to the legal retirement eligibility age--then, yes they can. Too bad. |
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Msg ID:
2701854 |
Actually the Law Says… +0/-0
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Author:Senior Pilot
9/2/2021 9:42:55 PM
Reply to: 2701848
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just sayin, what is the legal retirement eligibility age? Not aware of that one. AirMethods advertises 70 as max age. |
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Msg ID:
2701865 |
Actually the Law Says… (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Just a base pilot
9/2/2021 10:35:00 PM
Reply to: 2701854
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Msg ID:
2701866 |
Actually the Law Says… +0/-0
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Author:Just a base pilot
9/2/2021 10:36:39 PM
Reply to: 2701865
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70 for new hires. No age limit for pilots who were onboard prior to the current CBA |
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Msg ID:
2702441 |
Until a nurse thinks your room old and files a baseless safety concern (NT) +0/-0
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Author:and your gone in a flip of the switch
9/7/2021 1:19:31 PM
Reply to: 2701866
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Msg ID:
2701868 |
Actually the Law Says… +0/-0
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Author:Just a base pilot
9/2/2021 10:42:42 PM
Reply to: 2701865
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70 for new hires. No age limit for pilots who were onboard prior to the current CBA |
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Msg ID:
2701911 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Oldest guy in the room
9/3/2021 10:52:52 AM
Reply to: 2701794
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I found teaching at rucker to be the best job for the ageing aviator. |
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Msg ID:
2701918 |
just choose to identify as a 40 year-old... (NT) +0/-0
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Author:problem solved
9/3/2021 11:47:31 AM
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Msg ID:
2702014 |
Victims, Aren't We All? +1/-0
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Author:arrogance never pays off
9/4/2021 10:17:16 AM
Reply to: 2701794
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I can already see why they didnt hire you!!!! NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR COMBAT TIME!!!! |
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Msg ID:
2702020 |
Victims, Aren't We All? +0/-0
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Author:You Can’t See Much Then.
9/4/2021 11:23:02 AM
Reply to: 2702014
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Combat time is proof of performing under the most intense pressures. |
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Msg ID:
2702031 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +1/-0
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Author:Facebook
9/4/2021 12:55:44 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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It's funny... You posted on Facebook and got eaten alive for your attitude and then you come on here and post "Anonymously." I can take one guess why you haven't been offered a job. Oh, and you forgot to say that you failed the sim ride by crashing. I would also guess it has something to do with only having about 5 years left in your career. |
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Msg ID:
2702070 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Senoir Pilot
9/4/2021 6:13:55 PM
Reply to: 2702069
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Your turn will come one day, girly boy!
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Msg ID:
2702104 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Senior here.
9/4/2021 11:05:16 PM
Reply to: 2701794
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Sounds like you may have been inactive for some time. Some employers require you to be current within certain periods, say within two years. |
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Msg ID:
2702120 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +1/-0
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Author:Senior Pilot
9/5/2021 2:48:47 AM
Reply to: 2702104
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Yes sir, I am thinking you are correct....I started this attempt to reenter the HAA field after 6 years being away from the job. Maintaining my Class II and Helicopter BFR status hasn't been enough. So, this thread can serve as a learning point for industry pilots - if you have a break in service, don't let it go too long before you have thoughts of getting back in the seat.......annyeong! |
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Msg ID:
2702149 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Eeoc
9/5/2021 1:21:54 PM
Reply to: 2702120
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If you think it's age discrimination file with the eeoc. |
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Msg ID:
2702151 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:It Is So Hard To Prove
9/5/2021 1:32:18 PM
Reply to: 2702149
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You would have to get the hiring company on tape saying that they didn't hire based solely on age. Inhuman Relations is too smart for that to ever happen. |
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Msg ID:
2702358 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Senior here
9/6/2021 4:48:39 PM
Reply to: 2702151
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again.
File anyway! Specially since you kept the BFR going. Companies can choose, you can fight for what's right. |
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Msg ID:
2702382 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Maxx
9/6/2021 8:14:05 PM
Reply to: 2702358
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Do HEMS operators, namely Air Methods/PHI hire previous employees who leftthe company, on good terms? |
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Msg ID:
2702401 |
yes (NT) +0/-0
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Author:Anonymous
9/6/2021 11:22:27 PM
Reply to: 2702382
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Msg ID:
2702521 |
Age Discrimination, I'm Thinking +0/-0
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Author:Your first sentence says it all
9/8/2021 11:09:54 AM
Reply to: 2701794
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And you have to ask? |
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