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Msg ID: 2699971 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:Boob
8/18/2021 5:01:04 PM

How does AM float position work? Do they try to put you on a 7/7 or is it all over the place? Plus looking for all the good and bad in the conpany.



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Msg ID: 2699974 AirMethods +11/-0     
Author:SHIPPER
8/18/2021 5:28:25 PM

Reply to: 2699971

The Good: use it to find a better job.

 

The Bad: pay, benefits, culture, pay, med crew, career progression, pay, self respect, location, schedule because uou cover for everyone that quits, and pay.



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Msg ID: 2699990 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:But
8/18/2021 8:55:50 PM

Reply to: 2699974

I get all that but what about the Bad.. lol



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Msg ID: 2700009 AirMethods +2/-0     
Author:B&W
8/19/2021 12:25:15 AM

Reply to: 2699990

National Pool Pilot: Generally used to cover a base with a long term shortage. Week on/week off.  Repeat until pilot shortage is fixed(new hire finishes training). You then move to the next base with a shortage, rinse and repeat. You are controlled by a scheduler in Denver. They try to keep you in the area you live, but you go where the openings are. Expect to travel on your days off .

Regional Relief pilot: These positions are posted every once in awhile. Cover shortages within a specific region. Some times week on/week off. Sometimes 3 days here, 2 days there, etc. No set schedule.  I worked this position. I worked with managers and leads to get a 7/7 schedule but it didn't always work. Many a month I'd work 5 shifts at a base, did a travel day, then worked 7 shifts at another base. Took a week off, repeat.

Most people take these jobs to get their foot in the door, then move on to a base pilot position. Good luck.



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Msg ID: 2700015 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:Boob
8/19/2021 3:58:42 AM

Reply to: 2700009

So, in your opinion it's better to be a regional float for more of a set schedule? On the travel to Nd from the job site. Do they pay you any travel time?



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Msg ID: 2700019 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:No OT?
8/19/2021 6:34:30 AM

Reply to: 2700015

Serious question - Do you still have to work 182 days in the year before you can claim OT?  

 

 



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Msg ID: 2700024 AirMethods +1/-0     
Author:B&W
8/19/2021 8:17:05 AM

Reply to: 2700019

182 days is now 2180 hours for pay computation for the calendar year. Straight pay for all shifts worked except union negotiated holidays. Straight pay for actual travel day time. No OT until you reach the magical 2180 hours.



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Msg ID: 2700030 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:NPP
8/19/2021 9:00:28 AM

Reply to: 2700019

That may be the case for regional relief guys, they have a different setup.

I started recently as a National Pool pilot and I have been getting overtime on the travel days since my first hitch.



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Msg ID: 2700038 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:Boob
8/19/2021 9:49:24 AM

Reply to: 2700030

What kind of pay range do they start at for VFR 135?



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Msg ID: 2700054 NPP +1/-1     
Author:B&W
8/19/2021 11:11:03 AM

Reply to: 2700038

NPP, thanks for the clarification on travel days.  I've only worked Regional positions.  The new hire pay is between $67,016 and 73,808.  You can negotiate towards the upper range if you have some experience in 135 ops or the airframe they need you in.  They will always try to go low on you.

The National pool pilot positions have an ACCRA of 110% so you can add 10% to your negotiated salary if you go that route.  Very few Regional relief positions have an ACCRA.

If I was to do it again, I would go the NPP position.  More schedule stability than the Regional positions and you are not locked into that position for a year as you would be with a Regional position.  Also, being single in these positions is a benefit as you don't have to explain to anyone your $crewed up schedule.  And your constantly changing $crewed up schedule.



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Msg ID: 2700059 NPP +3/-0     
Author:That pay is an
8/19/2021 11:31:00 AM

Reply to: 2700054

absolute joke. I didn't think there was a single EMS anywhere that paid less than 75. 



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Msg ID: 2700070 Sure is +1/-0     
Author:B&W
8/19/2021 12:43:54 PM

Reply to: 2700059

That's what the union agreed to in the last CBA. Management just smiled and said "we agree with that pay scale"



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Msg ID: 2700072 Sure is +1/-1     
Author:If you were not involved in the
8/19/2021 12:51:06 PM

Reply to: 2700070

process, you have no right to bitch. A union is only as strong as the support it gets from its members.



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Msg ID: 2700138 That’s what the Membership voted in you mean. Still higher than GMR (NT) +2/-0     
Author:MedTrans.reach.airevac.metro.phi
8/19/2021 9:18:31 PM

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Msg ID: 2700165 That’s what the Membership voted in you mean. Still higher than GMR +0/-0     
Author:No
8/20/2021 8:38:56 AM

Reply to: 2700138

Way lower than PHI for sure.



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Msg ID: 2700170 Just slightly below PHI AIrMedical but WAY BETTER benefits (NT) +0/-0     
Author:At AMC
8/20/2021 9:23:18 AM

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Msg ID: 2700242 Just slightly below PHI AIrMedical but WAY BETTER benefits  +0/-0     
Author:PHI
8/20/2021 9:14:57 PM

Reply to: 2700170

2 years EMS experience VFR at PHI they started me at $78K.



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Msg ID: 2700247 Just slightly below PHI AIrMedical but WAY BETTER benefits  +0/-0     
Author:PHI
8/20/2021 9:53:41 PM

Reply to: 2700242

and that was 3 years ago.



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Msg ID: 2700395 AirMethods +0/-0     
Author:There’s
8/21/2021 9:45:59 PM

Reply to: 2700015

little opinion required for either job.  Both suck big time.  You will hate all the movement, chaos, ashole people and the dhicc ks you have to report to.  Not fun in   a n y   sense.



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