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Msg ID: 2698634 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +1/-0     
Author:Curious Aviator
8/5/2021 6:22:03 PM

Curious what you plan on / want to have saved in your 401k/IRA for retirement?



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Msg ID: 2698635 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +1/-1     
Author:2.5 mil by 60
8/5/2021 6:23:59 PM

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Currently at 1.7 @ 54. Will retire then.


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Msg ID: 2698637 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +6/-1     
Author:That
8/5/2021 7:21:17 PM

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54 and 1.7 million? I'd be gone by 55. easily live off the interest till SS kicks in. Take this job and shove it. 

Dwigt



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Msg ID: 2698639 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +2/-1     
Author:Medicare
8/5/2021 8:37:46 PM

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That's the issue. Bridging the gap until 65.


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Msg ID: 2698654 gasp +3/-3     
Author:Anonymous
8/6/2021 2:11:54 AM

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you mean you want medicare--? socialized medicine?? are you a commie or somethin ???  shocked, i tell you i am shocked



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Msg ID: 2698738 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +1/-0     
Author:Youngn
8/7/2021 6:05:31 AM

Reply to: 2698639

Thats why I do a roth IRA

I am 39

135k in my roth IRA

400k in my 401k

plan on retiring at 60.5 using the roth to bridge to 65.



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Msg ID: 2698644 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +4/-3     
Author:Gypped
8/5/2021 9:42:54 PM

Reply to: 2698637

Interest currently being paid by safe sources is in the 1 to 2% range. That's $17,000.00 to $34,000.00 per year interest. You might be able to live easily off that, but you will be living at a paltry level even if you are debt free.



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Msg ID: 2698675 Annuities only huh? +1/-0     
Author:Oldie Magoo
8/6/2021 12:39:41 PM

Reply to: 2698644

If you've got 1.7 mil you've got cushion to ride out market fluctuations. It's not 100% guaranteed, but really nothing is. Run a Monte Carlo simulation and broaden your horizon. What level of risk are you comfortable with?



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Msg ID: 2698678 Annuities only huh? +4/-0     
Author:Risky
8/6/2021 1:06:10 PM

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I've always been full bore aggressive. In order for my money to continue to make money rather than just preserve, I've never changed my tolerance. Just because one retires, that money must continue to build for possibly up to 30 years. Why only keep 50% to 60% in equities? Once I get to 2 mil, a 20% to 30% down market still leaves a great amount in my portfolio.


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Msg ID: 2698682 Exactly! +0/-0     
Author:Oldie magoo
8/6/2021 2:51:43 PM

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All gas no brakes! Seriously though, even if you keep a few years worth of expenses in bonds or cash or whatever, you're set up to weather some serious down years early in retirement. After that your sequence of return risk drops considerably.


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Msg ID: 2698699 Annuities only huh? +2/-0     
Author:Me Too
8/6/2021 8:02:12 PM

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But unfortunately my fortune came to a screeching halt when my high maintenance wife of 12 years sucker punched me with divorice papers on the first day of my 14 day GOM hitch.  I've been struggling ever since. 



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Msg ID: 2698704 You're better off amigo (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Chin up
8/6/2021 8:43:01 PM

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Msg ID: 2699132 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
8/11/2021 8:43:07 AM

Reply to: 2698635

might want to get very defensive about that 1.7, and real soon.



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Msg ID: 2698640 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? (NT) +1/-0     
Author:1.3 at 62, I want to get to 1.5 by 65
8/5/2021 8:37:56 PM

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Msg ID: 2698648 If the med crew kills you (NT) +2/-0     
Author:It don't matter, get out early
8/5/2021 10:10:12 PM

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Msg ID: 2698657 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +2/-1     
Author:My Plan
8/6/2021 8:03:28 AM

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My plan is $0 I want to be homeless . pennyless hopeless and useless,,, and Retire on all the nice Gov handouts. 



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Msg ID: 2698666 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +2/-1     
Author:Factors
8/6/2021 10:11:51 AM

Reply to: 2698634

Lots of questions first. 1) are you debt free? 2) If not, how long will it take you to get there? 3) How much do you have now? 4) Any other sources of income?

I have a retirement from a previous career so my investments can remain untouched. My first advise is to get a professional financial advisor. They will guide your finances and maximize your investments. This is so critical in the ups and downs that occur. Further, stats show that those who use a professional will earn 4-8 percent more than those that go it alone. Great return for about 1.18% fee.

If you have minimal debt, you could do it with a million using the 4% rule and still grow your money. In my example, I started with about 600K when I started using a financial advisor. 7 years later it is nearly 2M and remains untouched. I'll draw SS next year and will start pulling a few percent from investments. 

You can do it. Be smart. Get rid of debt and save. Good luck.



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Msg ID: 2698670 Again, I'm glad you're happy with an advisor +2/-1     
Author:But it's bad advice
8/6/2021 11:54:40 AM

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If you are a complete novice with money and investing and the choices are use a financial advisor or deposit your money in a high yield savings account or a CD, then yes, I believe using a financial advisor is the right choice. Also, if you're comfortable with investments but you have no willpower to stick to a plan and you know that you'll end up buying high and selling low then by all means, use a financial advisor.

Otherwise take a look at the 2020 SPIVA report:

https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/spiva/spiva-us-year-end-2020.pdf>

More specifically page 9 where it shows the percentage of US equity funds that outperform their indexes over the course of years. 2nd row states that the percentage of large cap funds that underperform their S&P 500 index over the course of 20 years is 94%. In other words, you have roughly a 6% chance to pick a large cap equity fund that will make you more money rather than just investing in a basic S&P 500 index fund, many of which have an almost zero expense ratio and are available in almost every 401k plan.

 



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Msg ID: 2698674 Good question +2/-0     
Author:My Answer
8/6/2021 12:36:20 PM

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My financial setup prioritizes flexibility, therefore I have a few options when it comes to retirement:

Now (34 yrs old) If I didn't contribute another penny to my retirement accounts I'd have around 1.5 mil @ 55 given a 7% real return. I'd have enough in accessible tax free or post tax accounts for me to do a roth conversion ladder and get me to 60 without having incur fees or penalties. At a 3.5% withdrawl rate it'd be about $52k a year tax free which should be enough to cover expenses (house should be paid off by then) with a decent cushion. 

If I keep working/saving until 50 I'm looking at around 2.5 mil in today's dollars, again assuming a 7% real return, so inflation is already baked into these numbers. Using a 3.5% withdrawl rate that'd be around $87k a year which far exceeds our current expenses, even with multiple trips a year and living a pretty good life.

If I kept going until 65 I'd generally see myself as a failure in that I must not have cultivated a life outside of work rich enough to bring me any satisfaction and I probably have full blown Stockholm Syndrome.

 

 



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Msg ID: 2698681 Good question +0/-0     
Author:fiduciary
8/6/2021 2:36:22 PM

Reply to: 2698674

Give financial advisor a little north of 862,000 in 2018, was 59 and half, now have 1,190,000 and change.  Avg. return 11 to 13 % . He put it in growth and income. Not going to touch  it until I turn 65.  



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Msg ID: 2698687 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +2/-0     
Author:1.1 mil
8/6/2021 4:15:03 PM

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Do some of the big companies like Metro, AMC, Med Trans, etc allow you to leave you 401k with them after you leave there employment?

I've had good luck with my company 401K and am thinking of leaving where it is when I jump ship and change companies for a base closer to home.

What are the pro or cons of leaving you 401k behind with old company?



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Msg ID: 2698692 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +9/-0     
Author:Set it and forget it!
8/6/2021 5:22:02 PM

Reply to: 2698687

Wish someone had given me this advice 30 years ago. I've had to make up for lost time.

Roll it into a self-directed IRA. Then you control it and have many more (and better) investment choices to select from that pay you, instead of paying excessive fees to your former company's brokerage. Typical employer provided 401(k) plans and their limited fund choices are set up to benefit the employer and that brokerage, not you.

No tax or penalty hit if you do a direct rollover to an IRA. I recommend determining your risk tolerance (expressed as an asset allocation....stocks vs bonds) and then invest in low-cost index mutual funds tracking an appropriate financial index (S&P500, etc.) accordingly. (VTSAX (0.04% ER) and VBTLX (0.05% ER) are a very popular example).

Vanguard was the pioneer and most well known brokerage for this type of self-directed index approach and can help you make the rollover. Fidelity is another good one if you don't like Vanguard.

Runs on autopilot, just check in and rebalance to your chosen asset allocation ratio once or twice a year. No need to stress about the daily ups and downs. You're in it for the long run.

You won't "beat the market" (because you are buying a mutual fund that mimics "the market"), but full-service fee-based brokers rarely do, either. Not over time, anyway. So why pay their fees? And "only" matching market returns is really not that bad. Somewhere around 10% for the S&P500 since inception, for example.

Good luck!



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Msg ID: 2698703 ^Nailed it (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Perfect Answer
8/6/2021 8:40:55 PM

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Msg ID: 2698714 ^Nailed it +0/-0     
Author:1.1 Mil
8/6/2021 10:25:13 PM

Reply to: 2698703

Thanks to 'Set it and forget it', for that great advice.



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Msg ID: 2698748 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +0/-0     
Author:Good advice but…
8/7/2021 9:49:40 AM

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Just remember, if you already have another IRA(including a Roth) you can only contribute the same amount in total to all IRA's. Meaning, you can only put in 7,000 total if you're over 50. Not 14,000 between 2 IRA's. If you still have a 401k you can invest more money or just invest in an individual portfolio which has no limits but doesn't have the same tax advantages. Also, be aware of IRA contribution limits based on income...



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Msg ID: 2698783 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +0/-1     
Author:Anonymous
8/7/2021 5:26:32 PM

Reply to: 2698748

no, no but

talking about rolling over a dormant 401(k) from a previous employer. that was the topic, not ongoing annual IRA contributions. that's a different conversation.



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Msg ID: 2698809 How much do you want to have saved in your 401/IRA for retirement? +0/-0     
Author:Copy
8/7/2021 9:17:58 PM

Reply to: 2698783

Thanks, I just learned some things the hard way which was my fault for lack of research. 



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