Msg ID:
2695944 |
Flying through smoke +2/-4
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Author:traveler
7/10/2021 11:38:03 PM
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Do helicopters flying on fires avoid smoke at all costs or no big deal? Any impact on engine or aircraft performance? If you do fly through smoke, are you wearing a mask with o2 or breathing the ambient air?
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Msg ID:
2695950 |
Flying through smoke +10/-2
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Author:Old fire guy
7/11/2021 3:09:49 AM
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Depends of if you are a contractor. Coromandel, Erickson, PJ, Heliquwest, Siller. Then yes you fly through smoke unprotected
If you’re CAL-Fire, Orange County Fire, LA. cCity or County you don’t anywhere near smoke. |
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Msg ID:
2695951 |
Flying through smoke +10/-2
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Author:This is pure truth
7/11/2021 4:29:18 AM
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Most of the time I've been on any fire with state and or non contractors they're usually having a hard time getting off the ground since theyre egos are so big. |
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Msg ID:
2695957 |
Flying through smoke +4/-1
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Author:Be careful
7/11/2021 9:29:10 AM
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I typically try to avoid thick smoke for breathing issues for both myself and the engine. I've had to quench a bulldozer(and driver)that was being burnt, and experienced compressor stalls while belly hooked. There are typically rocks and mountains hiding in smoke, so I try to stay out. |
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Msg ID:
2695958 |
Flying through smoke +3/-0
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Author:Anonymous
7/11/2021 9:32:54 AM
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Try to avoid it but it's fire so you'll fly through some. If you fly through the heavy smoke you're going to have a bad time. |
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Msg ID:
2695963 |
Flying through smoke +2/-0
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Author:Black Bart
7/11/2021 10:31:39 AM
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Gets a little bumpy if you fly through the black smoke. |
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Msg ID:
2695964 |
Flying through smoke +2/-0
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Author:Older than old.......
7/11/2021 10:36:58 AM
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Agreed, smoke that creates loss of visual reference is to be avoided. Only idiots and wanna-be heros purposly fly in heavy smoke and I perfer not to be on the same incident as them...... Contrators and .Gov alike..... |
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Msg ID:
2695968 |
Smoke em’ if you got em’ +8/-0
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Author:Some freak out badly
7/11/2021 11:04:36 AM
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Some humans don't belong in ACFT as pilots. Flying thru a bit of smoke is like nuclear world war III for these snapper heads. |
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Msg ID:
2696042 |
Smoke em’ if you got em’ +4/-0
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Author:Another Old Guy
7/11/2021 10:17:56 PM
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I'm now retired but flew type twos for many years. Alaska, the western states and Mexico. In answer to your question, no breathing protection . You just breath the smoke. I hear that some type three machines have AC. Flying into heavy smoke is a bad idea simply because fire fighting is VFR ,low altitude and usually involves higher nasty terrain right where you are working.
Dont be too critical of those County and Cal Fire guys, most of them were flying fire contracts for years before landing those good jobs.
Stay safe,
Another Old Guy |
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Msg ID:
2696072 |
Smoke em’ if you got em’ +0/-0
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Author:Australian
7/12/2021 10:22:51 AM
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You could ask the Coulson C-130 crew that flew into smoke in Australia in 2020...but they never came out the other side. |
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Msg ID:
2696079 |
That accident wasn’t about flying into smoke +6/-1
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Author:you Wanker
7/12/2021 1:11:55 PM
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Now get back to hûmping your Kangaroos and Aboriginal Half Breeds |
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Msg ID:
2696118 |
Flying through smoke +3/-0
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Author:Retired
7/12/2021 7:58:35 PM
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Be sure you can see a route through and an exit before you start in. If you can't, don't start in. |
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