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Msg ID: 2695549 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +2/-1     
Author:MTC Marks
7/7/2021 11:01:51 PM

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Msg ID: 2695552 Night Landing? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:My guess
7/7/2021 11:16:54 PM

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Msg ID: 2695560 Night Landing? +3/-2     
Author:Day/night so what
7/8/2021 1:21:50 AM

Reply to: 2695552

Nothing to hit but the ground and nailed it, good job. Why land perpendicular instead of parallel? Argue away dummies 



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Msg ID: 2695562 Night Landing? +6/-2     
Author:No argument, just saying
7/8/2021 5:46:36 AM

Reply to: 2695560

Easier to make that mistake at night where rising terrain less visible.

BTW, where were the "Flight crew'? How could they make such a bad decision and "allow" the pilot to land there? Didn't their "superior knowledge and education" not see that coming?

THen again, if that had been a 407 it would have been doable.



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Msg ID: 2695570 We all make mistakes +10/-1     
Author:135
7/8/2021 8:35:23 AM

Reply to: 2695549

it's just part of being human

Even the best pilots have temporary lapses in judgement. 



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Msg ID: 2695579 We all make mistakes +1/-0     
Author:That fin
7/8/2021 10:20:54 AM

Reply to: 2695570

is 15k. We busted one in training.



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Msg ID: 2695592 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +1/-0     
Author:obviously, more preflight
7/8/2021 11:31:10 AM

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analysis and documentation is required. 

When will they learn.



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Msg ID: 2695596 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +1/-0     
Author:mee
7/8/2021 11:49:30 AM

Reply to: 2695592

from several years ago



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Msg ID: 2695610 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +3/-0     
Author:Yeah
7/8/2021 1:02:22 PM

Reply to: 2695585

Because loading is much easier against the rising terrain as opposed to the flat asphalt 



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Msg ID: 2695710 MTC please answer this… why do you allow  +4/-0     
Author:overweight medcrew to fly?
7/9/2021 9:59:20 AM

Reply to: 2695585

Yes, overweight by your policies. 



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Msg ID: 2695617 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +3/-0     
Author:Skills
7/8/2021 1:58:25 PM

Reply to: 2695549

Sometimes bad things happen to good people and good Pilots.

It is by no means a reflection upon their skills



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Msg ID: 2695629 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +1/-0     
Author:oldNtired
7/8/2021 3:53:13 PM

Reply to: 2695617

Not a bad call.  Land length ways on the pavement people are going to be wanting to walk around the helicopter.  They have to get on the grass,which puts them walking uphill into the blades.  It also keeps the Med crew on solid level hard surfaces for gurneys and facilitates loading.  Hes just forunate he wasn't in an external tailrotor machine.  ( I wound have called it a ship but I understand that is no longer acceptable (cool) in new millenial language. )  Piece on DUDE ! 



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Msg ID: 2695644 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +2/-0     
Author:Tailcone
7/8/2021 6:05:04 PM

Reply to: 2695629

On the Huey, Jetranger, EC(Airbus) 130, the stinger under the tail rotor is more springy, and acts as an automatic leveling device if you don't plant it too hard.



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Msg ID: 2695666 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +0/-0     
Author:On the 350
7/8/2021 8:30:38 PM

Reply to: 2695644
The tail spring is in the landing gear pages of the manuals.


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Msg ID: 2695758 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +3/-0     
Author:you know how
7/9/2021 12:33:01 PM

Reply to: 2695629

they load the ec135? from the back. How on this blue and green earth, with the clam shells open, were they going to load the guerney? You're worried about them walking on the upslope with the grass? They will have to blow their backs out anyways on that upslope. 

Land parellel and you shut it down.. and while you're at it slide to the right so there's ample passing room on one side. 

This was a rookie and or unprofessional move.



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Msg ID: 2695648 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +2/-0     
Author:Tuff Luck
7/8/2021 6:38:21 PM

Reply to: 2695549

The part did its job, as long as the impact was not too hard it is a remove and replace incident.



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Msg ID: 2695805 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +1/-0     
Author:Anonymous
7/9/2021 7:46:17 PM

Reply to: 2695648

wasn't this done several years ago?



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Msg ID: 2695918 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +0/-0     
Author:Utility slug
7/10/2021 9:23:08 PM

Reply to: 2695549
Oh my! a little bent tail fin? That IS cause for alarm all around the medical world. Is there a flight stand down? Re-writing of ops manuals far and wide? Quick.... everyone to the sim for emergency training.

Oh.... hey did you hear an entire helicopter is at the bottom of a lake in California ? No? Well it was hardly mentioned here.

You med types are such a bunch of drama mamas


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Msg ID: 2695930 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +1/-0     
Author:Show us a picture
7/10/2021 10:26:19 PM

Reply to: 2695918

of the helicopter on the bottom of lake. And quit crying you little bitch.



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Msg ID: 2695948 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +0/-0     
Author:Utility slug
7/11/2021 3:05:47 AM

Reply to: 2695930
Look up one thread. Full news article. My point is the inter company piz make with med fold turn the slightest incident into a all day tread. Clearly no one was hurt by the tail strike. No one in the helicopter pro pan ply noticed. It actually could have flown away had no one seen it.
YET, a pilot swims out of a sinking 212 and it hardly raised and eyebrow.
Now, if your med competition leave 4 drops of oiled on a hospital’s pad photos and ‘unsafe’ post blaze away.


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Msg ID: 2695959 Erlanger had a BooBoo-MTC +0/-0     
Author:Cry harder
7/11/2021 9:34:01 AM

Reply to: 2695948

And quit drinking and sleep it off



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