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Msg ID: 2694820 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:Anony
7/1/2021 2:13:57 PM

Google is lacking but what type of cost difference between these three after an ems configuration?  Also how many H145's are in the usa doing ems? I know of the 4 Boston medflight aircraft. 
Google gave me this 

135-$6.2 mil

145e-$8.7 mil

H145-$9.7 mil



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Msg ID: 2694822 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-5     
Author:So what is your point?
7/1/2021 2:18:42 PM

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So what is your point?



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Msg ID: 2694828 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:Anony
7/1/2021 3:05:52 PM

Reply to: 2694822

My point is those google numbers are probably not accurate for a completed EMS interior aircraft. People here might have better insights on recently delivered aircraft that they could share a more accurate price. 
there is also another question regarding how many ems h145 aircraft are in the USA besides the 4 in Boston. 



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Msg ID: 2694829 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 (NT) +2/-6     
Author:who cares??, you need one??
7/1/2021 3:08:46 PM

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Msg ID: 2694844 Why do you have to be so useless? +12/-0     
Author:---
7/1/2021 5:06:37 PM

Reply to: 2694829

They guy asked a question - He probably has a need to know. Rather than show how unemotionally intelligent you are, let someone answer the question.

 



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Msg ID: 2694839 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +2/-0     
Author:Hmmm.
7/1/2021 4:41:12 PM

Reply to: 2694820

I'm not sure there is a way to figure out how many are action operation without calling airbus. You can go to each EMS company website and look at there programs to find a close number. Cost? No idea. Call metro or AM they build all of them. Good luck. 



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Msg ID: 2694851 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +1/-3     
Author:Debbie
7/1/2021 5:36:03 PM

Reply to: 2694820
4 years ago our corporate H145 was 10 mil complete. Prices vary depending on how they are configured and who does the completion. There are 6 in the US that I'm aware of flying EMS. The 135 is a POS not worth any amount of money IMHO. Hope this helps.


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Msg ID: 2694853 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +4/-1     
Author:The 135P2+
7/1/2021 5:48:02 PM

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is a good IFR machine. Slow, but if you wanted to go fast, you wouldn't be looking at Airbus.



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Msg ID: 2694856 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +1/-1     
Author:145Pilot
7/1/2021 6:06:21 PM

Reply to: 2694851

There are a whole lot more than 6. AMC has around 30. Metro has a bunch too. I don't know the actual number. Call Airbus. I don't know the completed cost, call Metro or AMC who does conversions. 



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Msg ID: 2694857 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:Mia Culpa
7/1/2021 6:07:34 PM

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Just saw he asked H145s doing EMS, not EC-145s. No idea. Call Airbus. 



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Msg ID: 2694934 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:Debbie
7/2/2021 2:05:23 PM

Reply to: 2694856
H145, you're thinking ec145. Theres a difference, a big one.


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Msg ID: 2694936 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +1/-1     
Author:He already said that Debbie
7/2/2021 2:07:07 PM

Reply to: 2694934

like yesterday and out f**king loud too



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Msg ID: 2694873 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:Numbers are legit
7/1/2021 8:48:04 PM

Reply to: 2694820
Sadly, all the 145 owners of the world could have saved 2m per airframe and accomplished the mission with far less downtime and half the doc. Shhhh It's a secret at Airbus.....


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Msg ID: 2694875 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +1/-1     
Author:Check here
7/1/2021 9:19:08 PM

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For the Northeast United States, check out alecbuck.com  Alec Buck's EMS Helicopters. Last I checked the list of HAA bases and aircraft are pretty accurate. 



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Msg ID: 2694888 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:DonHo
7/2/2021 1:54:51 AM

Reply to: 2694875

maybe you guys should look at the BK117-850D2, best for the bucks and just below the performance on the 145, just my 2 cents



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Msg ID: 2694901 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:annon
7/2/2021 9:33:33 AM

Reply to: 2694888

Good uck getting parts for it.  I love the BK but the parts are just really hard to come by.



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Msg ID: 2694895 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +1/-1     
Author:WACKER!
7/2/2021 7:32:00 AM

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Msg ID: 2695153 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +1/-0     
Author:Badog
7/5/2021 9:03:41 AM

Reply to: 2694820

I have a fare amount of SPIFR time in EMS and good amount of it in the EC135. In the early days it was a mess with something failing on a lot of flights. As the air frame matured it was a good IFR ship, not great because it could not carry the fuel weight you would like to have. Also full four axis auto pilot was much appreciated when shooting an approach at 03:00, or flying back to back approaches in a big city. For the numbers guys EC135 was great compared to the larger ships. Numbers guys don't fly IFR at 03:00.  

Retired before getting into EC145 but have IFR time in; BK's, BH412, BH222, BH230, S76



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Msg ID: 2695887 EC135 vs EC145e vs H145 +0/-0     
Author:135
7/10/2021 5:54:15 PM

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is functional though I don't care for its payload vs range and some silly over-engineering.  The145 with 4 blades is worse in turbulence than BK though it is allegedly just another BK modern variant.

If you need 145 size aircraft look elsewhere - waaay too muchover engineered bells and whistles, as in troubleshooting can really impact mission availability.  EC and their fascination with technology rather than the reality of functionality.  Sad preoccupation.



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