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Msg ID: 2694145 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +0/-0     
Author:Told The Truth About The Fires
6/25/2021 7:19:24 PM

You are fighting?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/24/report-californias-gov-gavin-newsom-overstated-progress-on-fighting-wildfires-by-690-npr/



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Msg ID: 2694146 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +21/-0     
Author:First off....
6/25/2021 7:28:10 PM

Reply to: 2694145

Any real fire pilot knows that all government owned aircraft be state or fed are absolute garb at fighting any fire And just get in the way.... second, we all know how terrible CA is and why it burns so bad all the time. And third, it's not surprise at all to anyone that that guy lied.....it's CA what do you expect....



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Msg ID: 2694153 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +4/-18     
Author:LACOFD
6/25/2021 8:18:06 PM

Reply to: 2694146

Hardly. Some of the most experienced and effective firefighting pilots are working for government angencies throughout California. With salaries upwards of 300K annually, those agencies attract some of the best in the business. As far as us getting in your way, I don't recall getting in any contractor's way while making 1,000s of night water drops. 



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Msg ID: 2694159 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +6/-0     
Author:300k flying helos
6/25/2021 10:30:31 PM

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yep more tax payer money at work - wow really.



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Msg ID: 2694166 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +16/-0     
Author:Perfect
6/26/2021 2:55:25 AM

Reply to: 2694153

Expected reply. Don't let your ego get in your way on your next night drop.



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Msg ID: 2694375 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +6/-2     
Author:If
6/27/2021 7:48:25 PM

Reply to: 2694371

You're going by hours as your deciding factor for experience, then I think you're the one who is misinformed. I've flown with countless pilots with over 15,000 hrs who are the most dangerous I've ever flown with and then been with 3,000 hr guys who were extremely switched on. There is such thing as being past your prime, and the amount of numbers in front of the comma isn't the best indicator of someone's ability.



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Msg ID: 2694342 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +2/-0     
Author:No comment?
6/27/2021 1:47:21 PM

Reply to: 2694153

Or did you see all the negative downvotes to show you are Misinformed....



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Msg ID: 2694610 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +2/-0     
Author:Lol
6/29/2021 5:35:02 PM

Reply to: 2694153

LACOFD.. the most effective? like running out of fuel and chopping off tailboom in a 412? How bout striking a steel pipe with tip of rotor blades? Shall I continue?

You could get the same results employing 20 civi pilots at 140k a year, less the pension. 

Self inflated ego... does the uniform come with clown shoes too?



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Msg ID: 2694148 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +0/-0     
Author:OP didn't bother to read the article
6/25/2021 7:35:00 PM

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it's about fire prevention, not the actual fires. lol SIX HUNDRED NINETY PERCENT!!! LOL



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Msg ID: 2694151 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +1/-0     
Author:Why are you whining?
6/25/2021 7:57:00 PM

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Don't do it if you have any doubts.  Otherwise go flying.



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Msg ID: 2694172 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +7/-0     
Author:Uhhh
6/26/2021 8:56:22 AM

Reply to: 2694151

California lied. Shocking. As far as fire goes it's not that hard. Put blue on red. Hardest part is the different egos with the different groups in a place like california. when I stay out of region 5 I enjoy summer camp. It's a vacation from real utility. 



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Msg ID: 2694237 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +0/-0     
Author:Luther
6/26/2021 6:29:22 PM

Reply to: 2694145

Meh, helicopters of all types are just a luxury, not a life requirement.



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Msg ID: 2694238 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +5/-0     
Author:Old as F California flyer
6/26/2021 6:35:10 PM

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Back in the days if you flew fires you were also a logger. Same on the ground. If you were a Cat skinner you fought fire.
Timber was money and life on the north coast and most everything north of Redding. I saw a change when the spotted owl was used as the reason logging slowed then stopped.
40 years later overgrown forests and terrible management of really vast amounts of timber, I mean unfathomable to those not from Northern California, have lead to places no entity can ever slow a fire.
That said, also gone are the days when loggers like myself saw profits burning and didn’t screw around getting fire out fast. Pretty boys with $30 million helicopters just will never get it.


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Msg ID: 2694239 Utility Guys Does It Help if You Are Being +1/-0     
Author:Luther
6/26/2021 6:55:01 PM

Reply to: 2694238

I had relatives that were fallers and choker setters, they all jumped in to fight a fire, as you say, profits were disappearing.



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