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Msg ID: 2691944 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +8/-3     
Author:Me and not you
6/8/2021 7:50:54 PM

It has already been proven that if you get the virus, 1-3% chance of dying

10% of people who get Covid have symptoms that appear to be permanent (Long-Haulers)

https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/covid-19-information/covid-19-long-haulers.html

I personally know 4 people who have lingering symptoms from Covid that are not resolving. All were perfectly healthy. Most suffer from chronic fatigue that won't resolve and many people get scar tissue in lungs that won't resolve and diminish lung efficiency.

So, we KNOW that a lot of people suffer from potentially permanent issues...

Now, 280 million people got the Covid vaccine and ... How many adverse reactions? How many are direclty related to death?

DO THE MATH. Your Risk of NOT getting the vaccine is FAR greater than getting it.

This is simply math guys...very simple

Take a huge risk of having permanent disability from Covid.



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Msg ID: 2691947 Wear Your Mask, Vaxxer  +4/-0     
Author:Not The Jab guy
6/8/2021 7:56:12 PM

Reply to: 2691944

Touch transmitted contagions, multi use masks tend to concentrate contagion, growth medium, and colony growth.

There are many more scientific reasons masks are not effective as we were told...

 

Now that the Big Tech companies have permitted us to speak out against the accepted doctrine that COVIDwas spread by bats or other things that crawl and fly in the animal kingdom, do we have enough courage to ask other relevant questions? Considering some new as well as some very old overlooked information, perhaps we should.

So, did the political-medical community bamboozle us into wearing masks?

Time To Take A Deep Breath

After lo these many months, masks have finally been ripped off the faces of Americans. As we take a collective and long-overdue breath, inquiring minds want to know: Was it worth it? Did it really make a difference? If you read Dr. Anthony Fauci’s emails, there is reason to wonder.

The New York Post’s Karol Markowicz astutely observed:

“In a Feb. 5, 2020, email to a Team Obama health official, the ­virus guru wrote that masks were for infected people, and that ‘the typical mask you buy in a drug store is not really effective in keeping out the virus, which is small enough to pass through the material.’”

Fauci maintained that stance for a while, including in a nationally broadcast 60 Minutes interview. Then he did an about-face, the media rushed in to do his bidding, and, voilà, millions of people were forced to mask up. Suddenly mask-wearing became accepted solipsism, i.e., an idea known to have the same clarity as the existence of oneself.

Taken at face value (no pun intended), wearing a mask seemed to make sense. However, were we so fearful of the alternative that we ignored some obvious information that doubted the accepted norm? Original 

research published in the Annals of Internal Medicine studied this question. In a randomized controlled trial conducted by DANMASK-19, a Danish study concluded:

“The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.”

Their medical research also found “… a recommendation to wear a surgical mask when outside the home among others did not reduce, at conventional levels of statistical significance, incident SARS-CoV-2 infection compared with no mask recommendation.”

Sadly, the Danish report simply mirrored what was already known about the efficacy of masks. In a 2009 NIH study, researchers concluded, “Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds.” In 2017, yet another bit of medical scholarship was published in Clinical Infectious Diseases. These medical scientists observed, “Self-reported assessment of clinical outcomes was prone to bias. Evidence of a protective effect of masks or respirators against verified respiratory infection (VRI) was not statistically significant.”

We could go on and on, but you get the picture. The advocacy media were better than average at whipping up a COVID frenzy that Americans may have been all too willing to accept. So, when medical and governmental authorities pressed forward with mask mandates – saying, in effect, “jump” – instead of questioning them, we said, “How high?”

Some might counter that it was better to be safe than sorry and that there are no deleterious effects to mask-wearing. But again, that might not be true. 

A 2009 randomized controlled trial published on PubMed.gov reported that “… subjects in the mask group were significantly more likely to experience headache during the study period. Subjects living with children were more likely to have high cold severity scores over the course of the study.”

Liberty Nation’s Pennel Bird wrote about a scientific study that “asserts that nanofibers in the masks we are wearing by the billions could put us at serious risk for respiratory inflammation and even cause a cancer known as mesothelioma.”

It may be years or decades before the medical community connects mask-wearing with cancer. Therefore, an informed public plays a crucial role in public health. But how can we make educated decisions when half the information is not made available to us, and the other half is for the express purpose of persuading the public to toe the line?

Former University of Ottawa professor and researcher Denis Rancourt, Ph.D., may have put it best when he wrote:

“By making mask-wearing recommendations and policies for the general public, or by expressly condoning the practice, governments have both ignored the scientific evidence and done the opposite of following the precautionary principle.

“In an absence of knowledge, governments should not make policies that have a hypothetical potential to cause harm. The government has an onus barrier before it instigates a broad social-engineering intervention, or allows corporations to exploit fear-based sentiments.

“Furthermore, individuals should know that there is no known benefit arising from wearing a mask in a viral respiratory illness epidemic, and that scientific studies have shown that any benefit must be residually small, compared to other and determinative factors.

“Otherwise, what is the point of publicly funded science?”

Read more from Leesa K. Donner.

 



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Msg ID: 2691963 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +0/-0     
Author:Deathbyvax
6/8/2021 11:15:27 PM

Reply to: 2691944

Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.



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Msg ID: 2691965 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +4/-0     
Author:Can’t Let Hated Guy Be Right
6/8/2021 11:41:41 PM

Reply to: 2691963


https://conservativeplaylist.com/2021/06/06/its-worse-than-we-thought-fauci-and-top-us-doctors-caught-they-conspired-to-disquality-hydroxychloroquine-as-covid-treatment-millions-dead-as-a-result/

 

 



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Msg ID: 2691973 Obsessed at not getting it? Maybe they are not obsessed about  +0/-2     
Author:not getting it!
6/9/2021 1:06:43 AM

Reply to: 2691944
See, that's a double negative


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Msg ID: 2691975 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +2/-2     
Author:Johnny Longhorn
6/9/2021 3:18:55 AM

Reply to: 2691944

What has not been proven is long term effects!

These vaccines were rushed into service. The government, corupt scientist and doctors were involved in the production. What happens when these RNA or DNA messengers decide to start attacking healthy cells? I’ll take my chances without a vaccine. I’ll get my immunity the old fashion way. 



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Msg ID: 2692008 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +6/-0     
Author:Johnny Longhorn
6/9/2021 10:39:31 AM

Reply to: 2691975

l guess my No likes are the poor sheep who already took the vaccine. Cool



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Msg ID: 2692053 Incorrect +0/-1     
Author:--
6/9/2021 1:08:17 PM

Reply to: 2691975

mRNA vaccines were developed 10 years ago

We Know how bad the outcomes are with many people who get covid

So far, nearly 10 months after the mRNA vaccines and? 

There are some uneducated fear-mongerers on here who believe in their conspiracy web-sites.

 



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Msg ID: 2692010 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +2/-1     
Author:bentwrech
6/9/2021 10:49:23 AM

Reply to: 2691944

the one on here obsessing is you.  so upset about what someone else chooses

to do/have done to their own body.  MYOB



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Msg ID: 2692023 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +0/-4     
Author:12 Monkeys
6/9/2021 11:42:09 AM

Reply to: 2691944

All anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect...bloody morons. 



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Msg ID: 2692039 Looks you are the one obsessed.  +2/-1     
Author:Anonymous
6/9/2021 12:38:13 PM

Reply to: 2691944

If you got the vaccine why do you care what other people do. 

Some people have doctors who are telling them that if they already had Covid, they have natural immunity and don't need to get vaxxed. 

Some people just don't want to get it. They're grown adults and can make their own decisions, good or bad. 

Let it be man. 



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Msg ID: 2692040 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +1/-0     
Author:gimbalring
6/9/2021 12:42:13 PM

Reply to: 2691944

Yes lets do some math about covid. There are about 333,000,000 people in the US. There have been 600,000 deaths in the US from the disease, so divide 600,000 by 333,000,000 and you get .0018 or about two tenths of one percent chance of dying from covid in the US. Seems like fairly slim odds to me.



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Msg ID: 2692153 Did you know... +0/-0     
Author:The G Mail Guy
6/10/2021 10:56:24 AM

Reply to: 2691944

Did you know that if you started your forum or take it to Facebook or Reddit for paranoid anti-vaxxers  you could cantact like minded individuals and not bother the rest of us with your obsession.



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Msg ID: 2692239 Why a few people on here are obsesses about not getting vaxxed +0/-2     
Author:Anti government
6/10/2021 10:01:55 PM

Reply to: 2691944
Yall want to die? Then get the "vaccine" it's not even a damn vaccine. Look up vaers report. That's only 1% they are going off of and it over 5000 dead so far. Do your damn research and tell people to stay away from the death jab.


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Msg ID: 2692532 Seems like you are more obsessed with them. Why di you (NT) +0/-0     
Author:care what they believe?
6/13/2021 9:17:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2692661 Did you know... +1/-0     
Author:The G Mail Guy
6/14/2021 8:15:34 PM

Reply to: 2692532

Did you know that if you started your forum or take it to Facebook or Reddit for paranoid anti-vaxxers  you could cantact like minded individuals and not bother the rest of us with your obsession.

 



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Msg ID: 2692809 Did you know... +1/-0     
Author:I like my mask...
6/15/2021 7:50:53 PM

Reply to: 2692661
Prevents facial recognition software from spying on me. Incognito...


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