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Msg ID: 2675707 So +5/-17     
Author:My son
1/8/2021 4:47:33 PM

told me his dog got beaten, slightly, for misbehaving.

I'm ancient, and not stupid.

Told him to consider his dog weighing 1,000 lbs like a horse and would he do that then?

Realistic?  No.  Potential for perspective?  Yes.

You want a realistic relationship with your dog?  Be respectful, as if the dog weighs 1,000 pounds, see what happens.  You wouldn't treat a horse that way, aka beat the horse, would you?  Well, same for the dog.

Moral of the story?  Helicopter related?  

Treat your helicopter like that 1,000 lb horse, respect it, it can kill you, and your  passengers.  

Sort your attitude appropriately, it does work.  Aviation is NOT forgiving.  Only you can forgive yourself through dealing appropriately with your medium/helicopter and its operating environment.

Msg ID: 2675710 So +1/-4     
1/8/2021 4:52:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2675713 So +0/-4     
Author:"slightly beaten"
1/8/2021 5:09:24 PM

Reply to: 2675707

"but Dad, since I'm bigger and stronger, I'm gonna whip this mutt's a** whenever I goddamn feel like. That's how this sh*t works at my house."


Msg ID: 2675714 So +3/-1     
Author:We are all
1/8/2021 5:39:33 PM

Reply to: 2675713

just trying to have a realistic relationship with our dogs.

Msg ID: 2675715 So +0/-2     
Author:How did his dog get slightly beaten
1/8/2021 5:43:03 PM

Reply to: 2675714

you left that part out.

How did the dog get beaten, son? Good question, dad. Would you beat your helicopter like that? No, pa. Okay then, go beat a horse son and good talk.

Msg ID: 2675716 So +4/-0     
Author:Moral of the story
1/8/2021 5:45:35 PM

Reply to: 2675715

Don't beat off your horse.

Msg ID: 2675724 So +0/-0     
Author:That's up
1/8/2021 6:14:42 PM

Reply to: 2675715

to ur imagination.

Msg ID: 2675779 So, is this a beating a dead horse story (NT) +0/-0     
Author:or union troll?
1/9/2021 8:28:01 AM

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Msg ID: 2675718 So +2/-0     
1/8/2021 5:59:40 PM

Reply to: 2675713

and like being a pilot it eventually comes back to kick the sch i ttttttt out of you.

That's the OP point.

Msg ID: 2675719 So +0/-0     
Author:What does?
1/8/2021 6:05:34 PM

Reply to: 2675718

The horse you beat off. Or something else. I'm really trying here. If the dog were a rhinoceros instead of a horse, you shouldn't beat it off? That I get and it's a lesson all young boys should learn.

Msg ID: 2675725 So +1/-0     
Author:U got
1/8/2021 6:15:40 PM

Reply to: 2675719

ur head in ur libido.

The point is something ur not capable of pereceiving.

Safety first.

Msg ID: 2676074 So +0/-0     
1/11/2021 1:01:34 PM

Reply to: 2675725

has a bit of intellect.

Msg ID: 2676073 So +0/-0     
1/11/2021 1:00:48 PM

Reply to: 2675719

you awake or dreaming?  Drivel.

Msg ID: 2675720 So +1/-1     
1/8/2021 6:05:47 PM

Reply to: 2675707

U don't get it, ur an idiot.

Msg ID: 2675723 So +0/-0     
Author:I want a realistic relationship
1/8/2021 6:09:27 PM

Reply to: 2675720

with my dog. I pretended it weighed a 1000 pounds but it still ate the couch and crapped all over the living room so I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Beat it off or no? Please hurry with your response. Thanks.

Msg ID: 2675726 So +1/-0     
Author:Oh dear me.
1/8/2021 6:16:49 PM

Reply to: 2675723

First, ur not telling the truth.

Second, in the event u are having a problem with ur dog decide to realize ur dog is a dog, not a human.

Msg ID: 2676076 So +0/-0     
Author:Good question.
1/11/2021 1:03:49 PM

Reply to: 2675723

Probability your dog has no respect for you, possibly because you beat it, and it is bored to defecating on your couch in response.  Animals have far more character than you think, and they are usually steps ahead of their humans, just like helicopters.  

Figure out the relationships and  you'll have a good time with ur dog, and you may stay alive flying helicopters.

Msg ID: 2675721 So +0/-0     
Author:Heli related?
1/8/2021 6:06:52 PM

Reply to: 2675707

Very much so.


Msg ID: 2675734 So +0/-0     
1/8/2021 7:20:43 PM

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Have you ever seen a old school blacksmith shoe an onrey horse? Hint...there a little bit of beat'n involved, 1000 lbs or not, there's only one boss. 


Msg ID: 2676077 So +0/-0     
1/11/2021 1:05:19 PM

Reply to: 2675734

and that's the boss no one wants to work for.  Get that pushy with ur helicopter and you'll get the same response as from the ornery horse gettin' shoed.

Msg ID: 2675754 So +7/-2     
Author:so liberal and so wrong
1/8/2021 10:12:28 PM

Reply to: 2675707

Sorry to hurt your feelings, but both dogs and horses need to know who the boss is, no matter the size.  So your story, while maybe well meaning, is incorrect.  Break them before they break or kill you because they are living, breathing, (sometimes) thinking animals with spirit and attitude.

A helicopter is just a machine that does what it is told or not told to do.  You don't teach it, it doesn't learn, it just does with respect to gravity and mechanics.

Msg ID: 2675758 So +3/-0     
Author:I'll get over it.
1/8/2021 11:29:13 PM

Reply to: 2675754

This is one pathetic thread.

Msg ID: 2675780 So +0/-0     
Author:I treat my rented mule
1/9/2021 8:42:44 AM

Reply to: 2675758

like a rented mule and this is helicopter related because my mule oh never mind

Msg ID: 2675845 So +1/-0     
Author:Of course
1/9/2021 4:14:32 PM

Reply to: 2675754

you are mostly correct.  BUT, there are ways to confirm who the boss is, and the best way with any animal is patience.  Having grown up on a farm I can confirm that.

It is also useful, patience that is, when dealing with flying helicopters.  In both cases, your interface with animals and helicopters had better be exercised with patience and care.  The subject is you, the person, nothing more.  Sorry that was not obvious to you, probably the way it was written, English/American language and all that.

Msg ID: 2675935 So +1/-0     
Author:Or is
1/10/2021 2:28:43 PM

Reply to: 2675845

it the current vogue of tearing each other apart, like Congress does, all the time?

Msg ID: 2675888 So +1/-1     
Author:Romantic Ron
1/10/2021 3:02:05 AM

Reply to: 2675707

Saw my Dad beat a 1,000 pound horse.  That horse there after paid attention to my Dad and did as expexted no horseplay!

Msg ID: 2676078 So +1/-0     
1/11/2021 1:08:23 PM

Reply to: 2675888

Dad exercised no patience.  Do that and the behavior will become far more long lasting and persistent.

People who beat animals should get the same so as to enlighten them.  Beatings?  Disgusting.

Msg ID: 2676139 So +1/-0     
1/11/2021 5:39:57 PM

Reply to: 2676078

to mention animals don't forget, and they do pay back.  Don't think so?  Ask a vet.

Msg ID: 2676156 So +0/-0     
Author:Same thing
1/11/2021 7:58:38 PM

Reply to: 2676139

helicopters do.

Abuse them and they fail before their time.

That has to be the thrust of this thread.

Attitude.  Force things via beatings, animal or machine, and look out, eventually disaster.

Msg ID: 2676157 So +0/-0     
Author:Ramantic Ron2
1/11/2021 7:59:10 PM

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