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Msg ID: 2675095 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +2/-3     
Author:in a very small operation
1/4/2021 10:22:35 AM

Airplanes and helicopters, 135 was just one Cessna 340. The rest was flight training in SEL/MEL and R-22's.

Maybe three rotor wing and six SEL and one MEL

My salary also included travel and expenses paid by company.

It was in SoCal, and my house cost 150k

Any more honest salary quotes coming?

Msg ID: 2675109 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +0/-1     
Author:Still waiting for the first one.
1/4/2021 11:32:18 AM

Reply to: 2675095

That's $110k in today's dollars, so I guess we'll have to wait for the first honest one as piston pilots don't make anything near that. And why are you telling this bs story again?

Msg ID: 2675118 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Why are you including travel and expense
1/4/2021 11:39:19 AM

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Msg ID: 2675123 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +0/-1     
Author:Good question
1/4/2021 12:09:04 PM

Reply to: 2675118

my salary does not include travel and expenses. 

Msg ID: 2675125 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +1/-0     
Author:Your words...
1/4/2021 12:41:22 PM

Reply to: 2675123

"My salary also included travel and expenses paid by company."

Msg ID: 2675126 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +0/-0     
Author:20K base to 108K
1/4/2021 12:48:38 PM

Reply to: 2675095
From 1993 to 2021. Too late in life to do anything different. Just hoping to fly a few more years.

Msg ID: 2675135 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +0/-0     
Author:And I made 20K 32 years later
1/4/2021 1:48:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2675145 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +0/-0     
Author:The OP
1/4/2021 4:13:14 PM

Reply to: 2675135

No, it's not a BS story. I negotiated 1000 a week flat rate. My travel and expenses were put on a company American Express card, and was paid by the company, since I travelled outside the country at least three out of every eight weeks. Europe and Asia, where we had sattelite offices procuring students.

If thats equivelant to 110k in todays dollars, I guess I should have asked for more, because I see that position today worth around 125 to 150k.

Sure, it was a sweet gig and it lasted only a year and a half. The Yen went down in value, their market dropped and the company closed up shop.

Msg ID: 2675151 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +1/-2     
Author:You flew that 340 or the 22 to
1/4/2021 5:22:18 PM

Reply to: 2675145

Europe and Asia put the gas on that Amex card lol. Ain't no 340 r-22 pilots making no 100k. Go back to sleep bro. You spell like an illiterate also bro. 

Msg ID: 2675152 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +1/-2     
Author:OP replies again
1/4/2021 6:00:39 PM

Reply to: 2675151

U R A Idiot. who said I flew anything anywhere? R-22's were just another helicpopter back then...prior to SFAR's when newbie pilots started training newbie pilots and those with more mpney than sense started crashing them like a demolition derby. Haven't flown one since the SFAR was implemented. Saw it as a Frank ploy to make more money while convincing insurance companies not o kill his cash cow by refusing to insure.

Sorry that you can't believe that you only get what you negotiate, not what you want or desire..

I didn't need a job then and do not need one now. Plenty of retirement income and investment income then and now.

Now go back in your boy-cave in your mommas basement milennial.

Msg ID: 2675156 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +1/-2     
Author:Oh you’re that guy
1/4/2021 6:34:18 PM

Reply to: 2675152

Creates a thread to show what a macho manly guy he is and to push some bullsh*t when he probably has never flown a single hour in his entire stupid made up life. 

Msg ID: 2675195 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +2/-0     
Author:another honest salary quote
1/5/2021 12:13:06 AM

Reply to: 2675095

Swear to GOD, true story. Okay, in 1962 I was chief pilot at a hot air balloon factory in Bogata Columbia. We made the balloons out banana skins and cocoa leaves. We had one balloon on charter. They gave me American Express travelers checks to cover the cost of hot air, extra banana skins and young male prostitutes. I lived in a hut that cost me 12 cents a week. I lost my virginity to a native boy that then became my lover for 8 wonderful years. He was killed in a balloon accident when we were sold defective banana skins which caused a catastrophic basket failure He plummeted to his death along with 17 Japanese tourists. I moved to Torrence California in '74 and became Frank Robinson's chief test pilot, felator on demand and gardener. I retired in 1998 and can't remember the rest of the story due to advanced dementia. Next.

Msg ID: 2675217 None of you naysayers were even alive in 89 +0/-3     
1/5/2021 10:09:30 AM

Reply to: 2675195

I guess "if it ain't on google or wikipedia, it's not true" generation; wallowing in their socialist lives, cannot comprehend any other world.

BTDT and have t-shirts older than R-22 Alphas

Yes, I have time in more rotor wing airframes than you can name in thirty seconds, and time in fixed wing aircraft you have never heard of. It's good to be old and not expecting to have to deal with what you'll have here in the USA within twenty years.

I'll just drain the socialist Social Security coffers with my maxed out monthly check, my tied to inflation government pension, free VA healthcare and medicare for life, and all the socialist programs on the horizon ... then I'll say "Peace Out Dudes, sucks to be you!"

Msg ID: 2675218 Oh yeah, and say what you want but your SS deductions +0/-0     
Author:are funding my lifestyle
1/5/2021 10:13:23 AM

Reply to: 2675217

So .....Go Fund Me!

Msg ID: 2675220 Oh yeah, and say what you want but your SS deductions +0/-0     
Author:Sounds like you got
1/5/2021 10:33:21 AM

Reply to: 2675218

quite the life going on there pal. lol

Msg ID: 2675265 Yes I do, I did my time and now I +0/-0     
Author:thank you for your contributions
1/5/2021 1:29:46 PM

Reply to: 2675220

Getting "Go Fund Me" before Al Gore invented the internet!

Msg ID: 2675316 Yes I do, I did my time and now I +0/-0     
Author:You were in prison too.
1/5/2021 7:33:05 PM

Reply to: 2675265

Makes sense.

Msg ID: 2675437 Yes I do, I did my time and now I (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Yep, in a way
1/6/2021 6:10:14 PM

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Msg ID: 2675282 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +2/-0     
Author:Chief Pilot
1/5/2021 4:06:59 PM

Reply to: 2675095

at a small pharmaceutical company.  One SE and one small TE IFR helicopter.  58K plus all the bennies.  Truthfully it was a PITA but better than a whole bunch other jobs.

Msg ID: 2675291 Okay, I made 52k a year in 1989 as DO/CP +0/-0     
Author:Now that I believe.
1/5/2021 4:49:20 PM

Reply to: 2675282

Mr. R-22 wants us to believe he made the same money at a po-dunk flight school with one piston on a 135.

Msg ID: 2675302 And nobody dug down to the bottom line +0/-0     
1/5/2021 6:19:57 PM

Reply to: 2675291

The bottom line was that I was being paid by a Japanese based company. 52k US was nothing to them with their YEN value at that time. They did the conversion and said "Sure, that's a pittance in our money"

Then when their bottom fell out, so did the company.

Msg ID: 2675307 And nobody dug down to the bottom line (NT) +0/-0     
Author:You started Silver State
1/5/2021 6:39:45 PM

Reply to: 2675302

Msg ID: 2675435 I wish I had started Silver State (NT) +0/-0     
Author:That was a decade later
1/6/2021 6:08:34 PM

Reply to: 2675307

Msg ID: 2675321 And nobody dug down to the bottom line +0/-1     
Author:the bottom line
1/5/2021 8:23:35 PM

Reply to: 2675302

there was no "Japanese company"

there was no collapse of the Yen at that time or really ever

companies don't pay people more because of exchange rates. The school would be making money in dollars so this doesn't even make sense.

I doubt you've ever even had a lesson

Msg ID: 2675434 you are so wrong +0/-0     
Author:Japanese company worker
1/6/2021 6:07:08 PM

Reply to: 2675321

Yes there was

Yes the YEN went south and they closed

No, they did not earn US dollars, they charged in YEN and billed from Japan to Japanese students

Know your history

Msg ID: 2675436 Anybody remember Corona and Floyd (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Hiser helicopters?
1/6/2021 6:09:21 PM

Reply to: 2675434