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Msg ID: 2595513 AMC caves to UNION +2/-1     
Author:Nice job 109
10/2/2019 10:17:12 AM

109-2

AMC-0



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Msg ID: 2595517 AMC caves to UNION +0/-0     
Author: Annoy
10/2/2019 10:30:37 AM

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WHo cares!? It's AMC



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Msg ID: 2595518 AMC caves to UNION +1/-0     
Author:#Keeping109Great...Winner Winner
10/2/2019 10:33:00 AM

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chicken dinner



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Msg ID: 2595521 Caves? The union didn't get anything it didn't (NT) +0/-0     
Author:already have! Nothing changed!
10/2/2019 10:52:32 AM

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Msg ID: 2595526 Caves? The union didn't get anything it didn't  +1/-0     
Author:Do you even read bro?
10/2/2019 11:01:39 AM

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AMC sent out the letter to its pilots caving to the Union terms and conditions. That’s another W for us!



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Msg ID: 2595570 Yeah, I read it... and it said nothing changes (NT) +1/-0     
Author:basically! Same as it was all along!
10/2/2019 2:20:12 PM

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Msg ID: 2595571 What I read was ltr to pilots saying union needed (NT) +1/-0     
Author:more clarity to the policy it always had
10/2/2019 2:22:00 PM

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Msg ID: 2595598 What I read was ltr to pilots saying union needed (NT) +0/-0     
Author:You cannot read then
10/2/2019 5:00:03 PM

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Msg ID: 2595608 reading is easy.... UNDERSTANDING is the  +0/-0     
Author:tougher part.
10/2/2019 5:47:38 PM

Reply to: 2595598

Union:   you are disciplining using SMS and we won't stand for it.

Company:   Union is confused with SMS.  We don't discipline currently for innocent mistakes learned by SMS submissions.  But, we'll rewrite the book so its clear that we will still discipline for wilfull violations of rules or regulations, just like before, if we choose to.



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Msg ID: 2595621 reading is easy.... UNDERSTANDING is the  +1/-0     
Author:UNION WINS and COMPANY CAVES
10/2/2019 7:18:43 PM

Reply to: 2595608

Pretty evident based on the letter from the company...they just tried to save face and act like it was their doing and sudden epiphany to do the right thing......cant polish a turd is what comes to mind with AMC and its so called "leadership"

 



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Msg ID: 2595623 Seems obvious Union is demanding something they can't +1/-1     
Author:have and won't get. Meanwhile,
10/2/2019 7:55:56 PM

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life goes on with no change to current policy, which is a fair policy. ASAP protecs FAA certificate action, not company reprimands. Even ASAP has a reprimand component. Union is lunic for this soapbox issue since it jepordizes pilot's protections more than the company prestige


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Msg ID: 2595625 Seems obvious Union is demanding something they can't +0/-0     
Author:Ignorance at its best
10/2/2019 8:01:35 PM

Reply to: 2595623

NASA is ASAP, ASAP is NASA. Pilots woujd sacrifice nothing when the union pulls out, as they should. AMC doesn’t care about its pilots, it’s a medical transport company. Lunatic except the fact that company already ca Ed and agreed to the terns the union put out and tried to claim as their own. Union wins. Pilots win. Good job 109



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Msg ID: 2595628 NASA is not ASAP. ASAP has ERC with peer on it +0/-0     
Author:NASA does not and takes a very
10/2/2019 8:13:03 PM

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big effort to prevail if FAA decided to take action.


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Msg ID: 2595640 NASA is not ASAP. ASAP has ERC with peer on it (NT) +0/-0     
Author:AMC has NO ASAP without union
10/2/2019 9:48:02 PM

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Msg ID: 2595663 Union has no FAA protection without ASAP. (NT) +2/-0     
Author:It's your loss more than theirs
10/3/2019 1:19:10 AM

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Msg ID: 2595712 Union has no FAA protection without ASAP.  +0/-0     
Author:It’s four letters and same thing
10/3/2019 12:53:14 PM

Reply to: 2595663

NASA form

dont be fooled by company “protecting” you through these “company” programs. Only true protection is through NASA



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Msg ID: 2595685 If NASA is ASAP, why is there an ASAP?? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/3/2019 9:15:43 AM

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Msg ID: 2595691 If ASAP is NASA, why is there an ASAP?? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/3/2019 10:12:50 AM

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Msg ID: 2595706 If NASA is ASAP, why is there an ASAP?? +0/-0     
Author:It’s an approved company process only
10/3/2019 11:29:43 AM

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Require for SMS tier credentials and the ERC program to co- exist.



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Msg ID: 2595708 ding ding ding, you said the magic words: It's a +0/-1     
Author:COMPANY program. it keeps going
10/3/2019 11:33:28 AM

Reply to: 2595706

with or without the union.   They will still have it if the union postures.   Its only the pilots who lose the benefit, nobody else in reality



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Msg ID: 2595713 ding ding ding, you said the magic words: It's a +0/-0     
Author:Leaving ASAP does not take away
10/3/2019 12:54:28 PM

Reply to: 2595708

Any protections. Pilots lose nothing. Company loses SMS tier status. Hurts them waaaaaay more than the pilots.



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Msg ID: 2595770 WRONG +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/3/2019 9:39:26 PM

Reply to: 2595713

No ASAP, no ERC, no FAA, no protection from enforcement (since nobody to "accept" a self-reporting of a violation)   IOW, subject to full enforcement of a violation

 

Just the way it is!

 

Union pulls out, and the pilots lose more than anyone else.

 

MSAP continues......

AIDMOR continues....

 

Just the facts of life!

 



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Msg ID: 2595631 Caves? The union didn't get anything it didn't  +0/-0     
Author:If you're
10/2/2019 8:34:20 PM

Reply to: 2595526

flying for AMC how can anything other than a termination notice be a W?



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Msg ID: 2595543 AMC caves to UNION +0/-0     
Author:Well....
10/2/2019 1:01:37 PM

Reply to: 2595513
Did they agree to pay for new pillows each year? What was it that the union wanted that AMC gave into?


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Msg ID: 2595555 AMC caves to UNION (NT) +0/-1     
Author:If you were Union, you would know
10/2/2019 1:28:32 PM

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Msg ID: 2595569 AMC caves to UNION +0/-1     
Author:How about a current pay scale
10/2/2019 2:16:22 PM

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?


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Msg ID: 2595585 AMC caves to UNION (NT) +1/-1     
Author:So easy a caveman could find it
10/2/2019 3:30:49 PM

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Msg ID: 2595594 AMC caves to UNION +5/-1     
Author:Who caaaaaaares
10/2/2019 4:12:42 PM

Reply to: 2595585

Here’s a hot tip.  Stop screwing up.  Stop writing rediculous aidmors that my 9 year old would laugh at.  This business with the union is a waste of time to justify their existence.  The only thing us non sh!tbird Pilot’s want to hear from you is negotiations regarding benefits.  Or if we could be so lucky maybe decertification.  



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Msg ID: 2595721 AMC caves to UNION +1/-0     
Author:Anonymous
10/3/2019 2:23:24 PM

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Congratulations on your didn't win or change anything of substance victory!



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Msg ID: 2595771 AMC already cinched a playoff spot..... 109 didn't, but (NT) +0/-1     
Author:is gloating it won a meaningless game
10/3/2019 9:43:02 PM

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Msg ID: 2595772 AMC already cinched a playoff spot..... 109 didn't, but  +1/-1     
Author:“Play”off when you mean “Sell”off
10/3/2019 9:48:36 PM

Reply to: 2595771

Closing over 40 bases and counting



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Msg ID: 2595779 there you go again, saying thing you don't back (NT) +0/-0     
Author:up with actual fact
10/3/2019 11:05:00 PM

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