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Msg ID: 2581822 The problem with HAA +10/-5     
Author:I'm not calling my congressman
7/11/2019 9:44:30 AM

The avaition providers should of stayed in avaiation and provided that service.  The hospital based system is the way to run the health care transporation system.  And yet the avation side of the house believes they can do a better job by providing health care.  Really?

Get rid of the community based models and go back to hospital based.  That will fix the system.

Msg ID: 2581823 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
7/11/2019 9:55:59 AM

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We will see a shift back towards the HBS model if the current legislation passes.

Msg ID: 2581842 The problem with HAA +3/-0     
Author:never happen
7/11/2019 10:48:34 AM

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Hospitals have all bailed because they could not make money by having a HAA pogram. HBS is a giant budget drain on a hospital to get the same patients a CBS will deliver to the same hospital at no cost to the hospital.

Msg ID: 2581834 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
7/11/2019 10:35:04 AM

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Msg ID: 2581845 The problem with HAA +1/-2     
7/11/2019 10:53:17 AM

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HAA is a joke.

Msg ID: 2581868 The problem with HAA +9/-3     
Author:Ems Jokers
7/11/2019 12:03:49 PM

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Recently a company under amgh flew me outta state with to interview for a 109 job. I had had to talk ad nauseum with medical folks to see if they liked me . I understand the dynamics but why is a pilot being interviewed with medics and people who are not Pilots?  Anyway this popularity bs within HAA is reason i am done with the toxicity of HAA! 88/15 red flight 

Msg ID: 2581901 My first HAA interview in 1995 +0/-0     
Author:was like this
7/11/2019 1:33:41 PM

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and I vowed that when I would be in a position to hire.....never again. 

Msg ID: 2581909 The problem with HAA +4/-2     
Author:Bozo the Clown
7/11/2019 2:02:51 PM

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Yeah, this HAA joke has consistently put me well into 6 figures for the past several years. I'm laughing hard all the way to the bank.

Msg ID: 2581915 The problem with HAA +2/-0     
Author:you may need to work on counting
7/11/2019 2:52:23 PM

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Making just over $100,000 does not put you "well into 6 figures." It barely starts you in six figures. 

Msg ID: 2581918 yep, "well into" would be in the (NT) +0/-0     
Author:400K-600K range.
7/11/2019 3:20:22 PM

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Msg ID: 2581920 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
Author:Bozo the Clown
7/11/2019 3:41:22 PM

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Maybe you shouldn't assume well into 6 figures is close to $100,000.

Msg ID: 2581942 It's real close Bozo, (NT) +0/-0     
Author:real close.
7/11/2019 6:27:00 PM

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Msg ID: 2581965 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
7/11/2019 9:16:16 PM

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Me too! Well, if I count the cents also.

Msg ID: 2582084 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
7/12/2019 5:17:23 PM

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You're either full of shineola or your working your azz off with no life outside of work

Msg ID: 2581938 The problem with HAA (NT) +0/-0     
Author:No, it isn't.
7/11/2019 6:21:07 PM

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Msg ID: 2581940 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
Author:But it is
7/11/2019 6:23:23 PM

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a system  poorly thought out and administered from decades ago.  That is what we have inherited and everyone is loathe to try to fix.  Trying to fix a system that tries to do more than its design can support is always going to break, here and there, especially considering single pilot and long shifts.

Msg ID: 2581896 The real problem with HAA +10/-0     
Author:I, Pilot
7/11/2019 1:08:49 PM

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The real problem in HAA is the lack of leadership on both the aviation and medical sides. Too often, the medical side thinks they can run the aviation side, and too often, the aviation side lets them do it.

As a pilot, if you are ever told that your medical crews are your customers, you are in the wrong place.

So far, where I work, they have maintained a good level of separation, but the medical crews still suffer from leadership problems.


Msg ID: 2581897 The real problem with HAA +3/-2     
Author:Ems joker
7/11/2019 1:28:40 PM

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Worked at several HAA  companies imo the Aviation side bows down to the medical side and the Pilot is easily the one thought of the least in the organization. 121 side gotta be so different thats why im headed to that sector. 88-15 red flight

Msg ID: 2581923 The real problem with HAA +0/-0     
7/11/2019 4:02:53 PM

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Hope it works out. You might be surprised though. you'll get a beely full of the regionals in very short order.

Msg ID: 2581924 The real problem with HAA +0/-1     
7/11/2019 4:03:34 PM

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At less than $2000 per month

Msg ID: 2581927 The real problem with HAA +1/-0     
Author:Those 2k a month days
7/11/2019 4:40:08 PM

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have been gone for years.

Msg ID: 2581929 The real problem with HAA +1/-0     
7/11/2019 5:04:30 PM

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Closer to 6k before you know it

Msg ID: 2581932 Sure, tell all the hospitals to get their own (NT) +0/-0     
Author:air carrier certificates then!
7/11/2019 5:09:56 PM

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Msg ID: 2581937 The problem with HAA +1/-0     
Author:The real problem
7/11/2019 6:20:18 PM

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with the system is its current cost.

Msg ID: 2581960 The problem with HAA +0/-0     
Author:OK, don't call
7/11/2019 8:53:33 PM

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..... and, return to the bong.  Warning, however -- you're already high. 

Msg ID: 2581980 The problem with HAA +1/-0     
Author:I call BS
7/12/2019 12:11:25 AM

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So the hospitals that I transport from have 3 beds and transport 80 to 100 nm each time the phone rings...  do you think that little bandaide shop could afford a helicopter to transport all the crack and meth heads?  



Msg ID: 2581983 The problem with HAA +9/-0     
7/12/2019 2:26:32 AM

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No, and they shouldn't. They'll have to wait for the big city aircraft to come to them. Like they used to.

Access to a locally based HEMS aircraft is not some kind of right. Choosing to live out in the sticks has its ups and it has its downs. It's nice and quiet, you can pee off your porch, and property taxes are low, but it's hard to take in an opera and they probably don't have their own pro sports team or HEMS base. Can't have it all (unless someone else is subsidizing it).