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Msg ID: 2580382 Where is that Crew Rest or Duty Day Guy +1/-1     
7/3/2019 3:45:09 PM

Here is a acticle for him

FAA Establishes New Part 135 Rest and Duty Committee

 - July 3, 2019, 10:22 AM

A joint government/industry committee is set to tackle Part 135 pilot rest and duty requirements once again. At the behest of Congress, the FAA formally established the charter for a Part 135 Pilot Rest and Duty Rules Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) that will review current regulations and make recommendations on any necessary changes.

In the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018, Congress directed the FAA to establish a Part 135 rest and duty ARC that includes representatives of industry, labor (both from Part 135 and 91K), and safety experts. Congress further stipulated that the ARC is to review prior efforts to develop new rest and duty rules, accommodations that might be necessary for small business, scientific and safety data, and the need to accommodate the diversity of operation, among other aspects surrounding flight and duty.

The charter for the new ARC calls for a committee comprising 20 members to be “balanced in viewpoints, interest, and knowledge,” and stipulates that members should review current rules; review other commercial rest and duty rules, including for Part 121 and ICAO standards, identify deficiencies within the current regulations; consider aspects directed by Congress; and develop consensus recommendations. While the ARC’s charter will last 24 months, the recommendations will be due within 16 months of the first meeting. Meetings will be closed to the public.

The ARC resurrects the decades-long effort to update Part 135 pilot rest and duty rules, including proposals in the 1990s that would have applied a commercial airline approach to Part 135 to the subsequent efforts of the Part 135 ARC in the early 2000s that developed much more tailored recommendations for on-demand and fractional operators.

Those attempts, however, faltered as Part 135 pilot rest and duty requirements were a lower priority for an agency focused on a number of other congressional mandates.


It would seem they listened to some of his whining, maybe he can get on the committee.

Msg ID: 2580383 He's off duty resting. (NT) +2/-0     
Author:Let him sleep!
7/3/2019 3:55:02 PM

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Msg ID: 2580406 He's off duty resting. +0/-0     
Author:Or, perhaps .....
7/3/2019 6:23:42 PM

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..... on duty resting?   

Msg ID: 2580385 We should see some recommendations (NT) +0/-0     
Author:in 5-7 years.
7/3/2019 4:01:35 PM

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Msg ID: 2580414 We should see some recommendations +0/-0     
Author:I'll be on the porch in my rocker
7/3/2019 7:07:27 PM

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by then.

Msg ID: 2580418 We should see some recommendations +0/-0     
7/3/2019 8:26:44 PM

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you make it to then.....

Msg ID: 2580435 We should see some recommendations +0/-0     
Author:Worry about yourself.
7/3/2019 10:12:48 PM

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I'll do fine.

Msg ID: 2580421 Where is that Crew Rest or Duty Day Guy +3/-0     
Author:Power line trash
7/3/2019 8:36:27 PM

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 ’Balanced commitee of 20’ Riiiiigghhttt! 19 non aviators from the medical world and 1 guy from fire fighting. Maybe.

 I often wonder why pilots that sleep most of their shift and fly 10 hours a month are so worried about going one minute over a 14 hour duty day.

Msg ID: 2580842 Where is that Crew Rest or Duty Day Guy +1/-0     
Author:Well, the real
7/5/2019 8:53:36 PM

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answer is total time of wakefulness from the start of duty etc. etc. which leads to, irrespective of rest or sleep time, pure and simple, an inidividual who is so bored he or she just can't keep their single pilot mind on the job.  At 16 hours of wakefulness it is said a human may be at the equivalent of legally drunk they are so tired - I know, bit of a stretch but everything needs to be considered.

12 hours is enough for duty time when the airline/operator cannot even pay attention to human rhythms - the airlines allegedly do - how I haven't a clue.

One thing that cracks me up is aviation crew change times pretty much coincide with those times hospital bound medical crews change, including doctors, which means flights late in the pilot duty time rig conincide when the referring doctor waits until close to the end of his or her shift to 'get rid' of a patient to a higher caliber facility in order to garner as much income on the patient for the referring hospital - don't think so, think again.  

Aviation crew change times should not coincide with hospital bound medical persons' crew changes - I know, 8 hour shift, 12 hour shifts, 16 or 24 or 36 - but, you get the idea.

Msg ID: 2580440 Where is that Crew Rest or Duty Day Guy +1/-0     
Author:T. S. Agroper
7/3/2019 10:37:13 PM

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Maybe he can rest in the terminal;

Airports Open Up to Terminal Tourists Who Just Want to Hang Out Mary Schlangenstein Jul 03 2019, 10:00 AMJul 03 2019, 6:49 PM (Bloomberg) -- Chuck Huqhey braves security lines at Pittsburgh International Airport at least once a week. Not to catch a flight, but to get an ice cream cone or cruise a few of the concourses.

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Dudes name is H u g h e y but the forum bans the use of the 4 letters g h e y being together. 


Msg ID: 2581048 Where is that Crew Rest or Duty Day Guy (NT) +0/-0     
7/6/2019 7:29:45 PM

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Msg ID: 2580678 Where is that Crew Rest or Duty Day Guy (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Hes on it already
7/5/2019 9:48:28 AM

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