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Msg ID: 2580247 Piedmont Airlines +5/-1     
Author:RTAGer
7/2/2019 9:59:30 PM

Piedmont Airlines, Inc. a wholly owned subsidiary of American Airlines Group, announced a significant pay increase for its 700 pilots, as well as an increase in pay and a new bonus structure for new hire pilots. The letter of agreement (LOA) between Piedmont and the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) comes despite the pilot contract not being amendable until 2024. 

Piedmont CEO Lyle Hogg says the new agreement reflects the company’s commitment to recruiting the best pilots and training them for a future at American Airlines.

“Every pilot we hire is on a path to American, so we want the best and the brightest. Now Piedmont can offer the best pay, the best benefits and the best career progression,” said Hogg. “Other regional airlines simply can’t match what Piedmont offers to pilots right now.” 

Voting members of ALPA’s Master Executive Council (MEC) unanimously agreed to accept the LOA, which places pilots in the top tier for pay among all U.S. regional carriers. 

New Piedmont first officers will receive: 

  • $50 per hour starting pay, up from $40 
  • Sign on bonus of $18,000 paid in two installments 

Current Piedmont first officers will receive: 

  • Immediate pay raise to $50 – $55 per hour based on years of service, up from $40 – $42. 
  • Retroactive pay increase to May 15 

Current Piedmont captains will receive: 

  • Immediate pay raise to $76 – $96 per hour based on years of service, up from $60 – 90. 
  • Retroactive pay increase to May 15 

In addition, all Piedmont pilots continue to receive: 

  • A guaranteed pilot position at American Airlines 
  • 100% trip cancellation, deadhead and relocation pay 
  • Per diem 
  • Hub domiciles (PHL, CLT) 
  • Free hotel rooms for commuting pilots 
  • American Airlines profit sharing 
  • Performance incentive bonuses 
  • 401(k) with company match 
  • Excellent, low cost health benefits 
  • Family travel on American Airlines 

Piedmont currently operates 400 flights per day for American Airlines out of Charlotte, North Carolina and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with a fleet of 60 Embraer 145 regional jets. 

Pilots who wish to apply to Piedmont Airlines can do so through AirlineApps.com or set up a call with a recruiter by emailing flyPiedmont@aa.com.



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Msg ID: 2580250 Piedmont Airlines +5/-2     
Author:No thanks.
7/2/2019 10:06:02 PM

Reply to: 2580247

I'll stick with my crappy helicopter job. I get to wear jeans and they give me a rental car. I also have the option of a 182 on/182 off schedule. Top that.



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Msg ID: 2580313 Piedmont Airlines +1/-0     
Author:Jeans guy
7/3/2019 11:00:28 AM

Reply to: 2580250

Well if you want to fly airplanes go do so. I used to fly airplanes (small charter) I found it boring setting the auto pilot and trying not to fall asleep.

 I enjoy helicopters and the ability  basically build my own schedule. So knock the jeans and rental car post

but I like what I do and that is fly helicopters!



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Msg ID: 2581377 Piedmont Airlines +0/-0     
Author:Agree.
7/8/2019 6:39:49 PM

Reply to: 2580250

Life is for living, not working.



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Msg ID: 2580256 Whoohoo! $45,000/year career move (NT) +0/-0     
Author:where do I sign?
7/2/2019 11:05:35 PM

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Msg ID: 2580257 Whoohoo! $45,000/year career move +0/-1     
Author:Sorry
7/2/2019 11:15:34 PM

Reply to: 2580256

Retards that can't figure this out are weeded out early. Before they apply, even.



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Msg ID: 2580267 There's Good News and Bad News +5/-1     
Author:Anonymous
7/3/2019 2:26:32 AM

Reply to: 2580257

At $50 per flight hour to start, and assuming you fly 80 hours per month...which scheduling will try their best to get out of you...then you make $4000 per month before taxes. But that isn't all of the story...aside from the various trip rigs and per diem money, they'll usually want you to work over a few days every month. It happens...people get sick, people get fired, people take vacation...and with the bonuses they pay for work over, you can make half again your salary every month. All together, an FO after training and with a couple months on the line to figure out how to work the system might be averaging 6 Large per month before Sam's cut. This is not chump change but neither is it what you could be making in some helicopter jobs. And you will work for it...harder than you will in those helicopter jobs...18 to 20 days per month in run-of-the-mill (at best) crew hotels, six legs a day fueled with leftover snack food and soft drinks. There is an upside...providing there's no recession, or war, or another major terrorist attack, or an asteroid impact: As things stand now, in a couple of years you'll be in the left side making double this start pay and earning it by doing the same crummy stuff I've already listed, plus answering the mail for every thing that goes wrong (that's a lot, sometimes), plus nursemaiding some Klutz in the right seat that is just as clueless 'bout flying them Jets as you were when you started. And maybe...not surely, but maybe...yeah, five or seven years more, and you're trading in those four-stripes for another brand new set of co-jo boards, but this time in the right seat of a grown-up jet for a grown-up airline...with a pay cut, but not much...and the prospect of the Big Brass Ring if you can hang on to upgrade and get Captain's Pay at that Major. ...And from then on? Easy Street...providing you don't muff a semi-annual check or a Physical...15 to 20 days per month on the road, 3-4 legs a day...lather, rinse, repeat. I'm not going to try to make anybody feel ashamed or blow sunshine up your keister, either: Airline flying is real flying and it's real tough. It's a grind and if you can't hack it, they'll lose you...fast. Helicopter flying is what it is, as well, and the job you get determines what you do and how much you get paid. The point is, do what you want, and if you think you want it and don't go for it, you will regret it the rest of your life. Just stop either crowing about it, or bitching about it, or trying to convert somebody else to your way of thinking, and just get on with it.



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Msg ID: 2580268 There's Good News and Bad News +10/-2     
Author: Public Service - Paragraphs
7/3/2019 2:28:55 AM

Reply to: 2580267

At $50 per flight hour to start, and assuming you fly 80 hours per month...which scheduling will try their best to get out of you...then you make $4000 per month before taxes. But that isn't all of the story...aside from the various trip rigs and per diem money, they'll usually want you to work over a few days every month. It happens...people get sick, people get fired, people take vacation...and with the bonuses they pay for work over, you can make half again your salary every month.

All together, an FO after training and with a couple months on the line to figure out how to work the system might be averaging 6 Large per month before Sam's cut. This is not chump change but neither is it what you could be making in some helicopter jobs. And you will work for it...harder than you will in those helicopter jobs...18 to 20 days per month in run-of-the-mill (at best) crew hotels, six legs a day fueled with leftover snack food and soft drinks.

There is an upside...providing there's no recession, or war, or another major terrorist attack, or an asteroid impact: As things stand now, in a couple of years you'll be in the left side making double this start pay and earning it by doing the same crummy stuff I've already listed, plus answering the mail for every thing that goes wrong (that's a lot, sometimes), plus nursemaiding some Klutz in the right seat that is just as clueless 'bout flying them Jets as you were when you started.

And maybe...not surely, but maybe...yeah, five or seven years more, and you're trading in those four-stripes for another brand new set of co-jo boards, but this time in the right seat of a grown-up jet for a grown-up airline...with a pay cut, but not much...and the prospect of the Big Brass Ring if you can hang on to upgrade and get Captain's Pay at that Major. ...And from then on? Easy Street...providing you don't muff a semi-annual check or a Physical...15 to 20 days per month on the road, 3-4 legs a day...lather, rinse, repeat.

I'm not going to try to make anybody feel ashamed or blow sunshine up your keister, either: Airline flying is real flying and it's real tough. It's a grind and if you can't hack it, they'll lose you...fast.

Helicopter flying is what it is, as well, and the job you get determines what you do and how much you get paid.

The point is, do what you want, and if you think you want it and don't go for it, you will regret it the rest of your life. Just stop either crowing about it, or bitching about it, or trying to convert somebody else to your way of thinking, and just get on with it.



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Msg ID: 2580277 There's Good News and Bad News +5/-0     
Author:Ems ret
7/3/2019 7:51:26 AM

Reply to: 2580268

May not be all glory but is a FO at airline putting up with the bs of self loading ballast or mgt outta that values med types and has no problem throwing pilots under a bus? I will take airline life over ems.



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Msg ID: 2580293 There's Good News and Bad News +0/-0     
Author:Mix in a paragraph
7/3/2019 9:55:44 AM

Reply to: 2580267

Try it sometime, you'll like it and so will the rest of us.



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Msg ID: 2580323 trip "rigs" simply ensure you make Salary! +0/-0     
Author:Per Diem reimburses you for being
7/3/2019 11:21:38 AM

Reply to: 2580267

away from home.   That is a break even proposition, not an "EARNING" proposition!   I costs you to be away from home, and that reimburses you for that cost,,,   leaving you with $45,000 yr



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Msg ID: 2580327 Per Diem @ Piedmont: $1.70 /hr. That's a whole (NT) +0/-0     
Author:$40.80 per day, to eat airport/hotels
7/3/2019 11:27:50 AM

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Msg ID: 2580322 Figure what out? $50/hr x 75hrs/mo x 12 mos (NT) +1/-0     
Author:equals $45,000 / yr
7/3/2019 11:18:53 AM

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Msg ID: 2580331 Forget about per diem and first year pay, etc. +1/-0     
Author:Look at the long term.
7/3/2019 11:36:51 AM

Reply to: 2580322

You will make at least triple of any helicopter pilot over the course of your career and have a much better job and retirement. Don't be stupid and let the morons distract you with starting out pay as it's meaningless.

 

https://iflycoast.com/airline-pilots-earn-7-million-over-their-careers/

 



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Msg ID: 2580333 Airline's are less stable then HAA bases, generally (NT) +1/-1     
Author:speaking!
7/3/2019 11:51:14 AM

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Msg ID: 2580339 Where 'o where did all these airlines go? +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
7/3/2019 12:20:21 PM

Reply to: 2580333

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_airlines_of_the_United_States

 

 



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Msg ID: 2580338 Yeah, if you start in your early 20's (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
7/3/2019 12:17:34 PM

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Msg ID: 2580336 I make $75/hour sleeping (NT) +1/-0     
Author:Yawn....zzzzzzz
7/3/2019 12:12:53 PM

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Msg ID: 2580340 I thought you had to wake up to turn a flight down (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
7/3/2019 12:21:41 PM

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Msg ID: 2580360 I make $75/hour sleeping +0/-0     
Author:Uh, no you don't.
7/3/2019 2:07:53 PM

Reply to: 2580336

Nobody is making that and certainly not you.



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Msg ID: 2580380 I make $75/hour sleeping +0/-0     
Author:Ems ret
7/3/2019 3:33:08 PM

Reply to: 2580360

i call bs on your pay rate unless you are on workover with mileage etc.. HAA such a toxic slice to chew on!



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Msg ID: 2580404 Who said HEMS/HAA? (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Anonymous
7/3/2019 5:50:08 PM

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Msg ID: 2580405 Corporate pilot gets $900/day and sits (sleeps) +0/-0     
Author:in hotel on days not used (but paid)
7/3/2019 5:56:19 PM

Reply to: 2580404

You get your daily rate regardless.   You get a rental car, hotel room, and three days doing nothing still earning the daily rate, then on the 4th day, you fly the boss back



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Msg ID: 2580424 Corporate pilot gets $900/day and sits (sleeps) +0/-1     
Author:Sure pal
7/3/2019 8:51:51 PM

Reply to: 2580405

But that ain’t you



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Msg ID: 2580472 Corporate pilot gets $900/day and sits (sleeps) (NT) +0/-0     
Author:$900 a day was 5 years ago money
7/4/2019 9:53:58 AM

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Msg ID: 2580477 Didn't say it was me, just pointed out your (NT) +0/-0     
Author:ignorance and mis-assumptions!
7/4/2019 10:07:29 AM

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Msg ID: 2580504 Didn't say it was me, just pointed out your  +0/-0     
Author:lol
7/4/2019 12:01:15 PM

Reply to: 2580477

Now it's not EMS and now it's not you. What's next. Not aviation.



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Msg ID: 2580506 Didn't say it was me, just pointed out your  +0/-0     
Author:You may want to reread your post.
7/4/2019 12:03:33 PM

Reply to: 2580504

When you say "I", it's safe to assume you're talking about yourself. Dude, you're stupid.



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Msg ID: 2581378 I make $75/hour sleeping +0/-0     
Author:No you don't.
7/8/2019 6:40:23 PM

Reply to: 2580336

Do the math.



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