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Msg ID: 2554152 Air 2 +0/-1     
Author:Info????
2/3/2019 1:43:18 PM

How are they to work for?  I‘m guessing with their lower time minimums they are a company that one can go through to break into the powerline world?  Is this true?  Are they worth flying for or are they just a conpany that pilots use as a stepping stone?  Do they have a regular schedule?

For 5000 hour guy with no powerline or longline experience how does one beak into the powerline world?  I know Haverfield trains but I’m told they’re schedule is non existant. 



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Msg ID: 2554153 Air 2 +8/-0     
Author:Powerliner
2/3/2019 1:56:02 PM

Reply to: 2554152

18/18 schedule, travel and housing paid. Good linemen, some intense energized work and lots of new construction work. Pilots average 120 - 150k per year. Certainly not a entry level company but you can make more money elsewhere if you want to chase money. They had a rough patch last year which most of these powerline operators go through from time to time. Think Brim 2013. Winco 2007. Highlines 2017. Haverfield etc. It’s a dangerous business. If they give you a shot, learn from the experienced guys and don’t get outside your comfort level. 



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Msg ID: 2554174 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Helping you
2/3/2019 4:56:06 PM

Reply to: 2554152

best way to break into powerline business is to go to Temsco or Haverfield.  Gain your initial powerline training and experience then move on.



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Msg ID: 2554175 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:op
2/3/2019 5:05:22 PM

Reply to: 2554174

I didn’t know Temsco did powerline work. 

I’ve talked to the Haverfield folk before. I was told by them that it’s a 20/10 schedule but realistically the schedule is fluid and it depends on need. I could do an even schedule with family at home but I‘m hesitant to commit a couple years with no real schedule. I understand, “that’s what it takes so how bad do you want it?”

 

Air2 only advertises 1000hrs pic required so I thought maybe they’re another route into the industry.  

 

 

Thanks again for the info



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Msg ID: 2554180 Air 2 +1/-0     
Author:Helping you
2/3/2019 5:32:14 PM

Reply to: 2554175

temsco doesn’t do powerline work but you’ll gain long line and MD500 experience 



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Msg ID: 2554182 Gotcha. Thanks (NT) +0/-0     
Author:Op
2/3/2019 5:39:04 PM

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Msg ID: 2554183 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Op
2/3/2019 5:40:25 PM

Reply to: 2554180

Does Temsco ever hire straight into utility or do they only move people up from the tour side?



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Msg ID: 2554197 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Not sure
2/3/2019 7:34:52 PM

Reply to: 2554183

im a haverfield pilot and we had some guys come from Temsco.  Not sure of their progression



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Msg ID: 2554201 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Op
2/3/2019 8:23:36 PM

Reply to: 2554197

How do you like haverfield?  Is it a good company to work for?  Pay and schedule ok?  juat curious on your take on it. 



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Msg ID: 2554248 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:winco
2/4/2019 8:25:09 AM

Reply to: 2554201

HAVERFIELD got bought out by quanta. Aircraft have 30 thousand hours on them and they fly terrible . Stay away go to winco. Anyway construction is easier than maintenance/hot work 



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Msg ID: 2554267 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Op
2/4/2019 10:10:12 AM

Reply to: 2554248

I assume to work at winco, one needs some longline time and 500 time 1st. 



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Msg ID: 2554270 Air 2 +1/-0     
Author:Correct
2/4/2019 10:19:35 AM

Reply to: 2554267

A few hundred hours of 500 time and a few hundred hours precision longline time is desired. Ive seen guys with thousands of hours of longline and no 500 get hired, but typically they want both.



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Msg ID: 2554386 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:no dice
2/5/2019 7:34:10 AM

Reply to: 2554267

It comes down to the same aviation deal. You have to find a way in. You’ve wasted the past 5000 hours not doing utility and now you have a family and you want to get into it? You did it backwards. You’d have to pay your dues all over again. your 5000 hours are worthlesS 



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Msg ID: 2554262 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Helping you
2/4/2019 9:43:30 AM

Reply to: 2554201

old aircraft, horrible schedule, I never see my family, only half the mechanics are descent, and safety only matters until it affects the bottom line.   Great place to learn the business if you have a backbone and know when to say no.



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Msg ID: 2554317 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Powerliner
2/4/2019 2:13:48 PM

Reply to: 2554262

Everybody wants the big boy job, until they have to do the big boy work. 



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Msg ID: 2554573 Air 2 +1/-0     
Author:pline
2/6/2019 10:38:55 AM

Reply to: 2554262

Agreed. They will tell you to fly it into the ground if it makes them money. Maintenance is borderline illegal. No one wants to ground the aircraft for any reason.

 



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Msg ID: 2554606 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Powerliner
2/6/2019 2:26:55 PM

Reply to: 2554573

Gotta disagree with you on this. None of the 500 powerline operators spare a penny on maintenance from what I’ve seen. They normally treat the pilots and mechanics very well. Never had any pressure to fly or been asked to do anything illegal in the Powerline Contruction, Maintenance and Aerial saw world. Believe me when I say we get grounded for maintenance issuea plenty just like every other sector. 



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Msg ID: 2554654 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Smelly
2/6/2019 8:21:34 PM

Reply to: 2554606

Well where I work if you don’t know what the problem with the aircraft is and how to fix it, it does not get fixed.  I’m talking weird vibrations, power check issues or flight Control issues. If there isn’t a light on that tells you how to fix it then it isn’t fixed 



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Msg ID: 2554701 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Wire flyer 2
2/7/2019 11:04:27 AM

Reply to: 2554654

get a new employer.  Where I work every helicopter has a mechanic most of them fantastic, every helicopter has a Chadwick, that we can throw on whenever we have a vibe and we don’t go to work until it’s fixed, poor power check, or even a negative trend, again we don’t go to work until it’s fixed, or at leat identified, Flight control issue same thing, and all of our mechanics of had the flight controls apart and are competent to work on them. Don’t settle for that.



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Msg ID: 2554281 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Grammar Police
2/4/2019 11:22:26 AM

Reply to: 2554201

You can have thousands of hours in type and hundered of hours of longline but if you can't spell you can't rite a rezoomay!



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Msg ID: 2554282 if you have the skills, you don't need the (NT) +1/-0     
Author:rezoomay
2/4/2019 11:25:11 AM

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Msg ID: 2554286 Air 2 +0/-0     
Author:Gai
2/4/2019 11:44:12 AM

Reply to: 2554281

Yugai 



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