Click here to close
New Message Alert
Sorry to burst your bubble, but ....
Sorry to burst your bubble, but ....
Author:
FAR 135.267(c) isn't being used!
Date:
11/29/2024 9:12:28 PM
+0
/
-0
Show Orig. Msg (this window)
Or
In New Window
https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/FAA000000000LEGALIN
TPR2013049PDF.0001
Reply
Return-To-Index
Display Full Msg Thread
Rules of Engagement
Terms of Use
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+9
/
-18
There is a 10hr look back 11/29/2024 10:46:03 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+7
/
-0
yeah 11/29/2024 11:07:08 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+1
/
-0
But 11/29/2024 3:05:34 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+1
/
-1
Wow you're so smart 11/29/2024 5:28:25 PM
See, you don't get it! Maximun duty is NOT, wait for it, 14 hours.
+0
/
-1
You can be on duty forever! 11/29/2024 6:33:49 PM
See, you don't get it! Maximun duty is NOT, wait for it, 14 hours. (NT)
+0
/
-1
Give an example then 11/29/2024 6:41:26 PM
Example:
+1
/
-1
Anonymous 11/29/2024 9:58:35 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+5
/
-1
135.267 11/29/2024 6:30:39 PM
NOBODY, is following (c)! You are not operating under (c)
+0
/
-2
You are operating under (b) & (d) 11/29/2024 6:37:10 PM
NOBODY, is following (c)! You are not operating under (c)
+2
/
-0
Wow 11/29/2024 6:48:51 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but ....
+0
/
-0
FAR 135.267(c) isn't being used! 11/29/2024 9:12:28 PM
[copy and past the link] (NT)
+0
/
-0
Anonymous 11/29/2024 9:14:04 PM
I take that back... unless you are a GOM bubba (NT)
+0
/
-0
That schedule might qualify for (c) 11/29/2024 9:40:56 PM
Your Certificate Holder chooses to operate under one or the other!
+0
/
-0
Either (b) or (c) 11/29/2024 9:49:09 PM
Your Certificate Holder chooses to operate under one or the other!
+0
/
-0
That's pretty cool 11/29/2024 9:58:38 PM
The FAR does not limit your duty! It does not tell the operator to put you
+0
/
-2
on rest at 14 hours! 11/29/2024 10:03:27 PM
Nope, it is not a LIMIT! If you don't meet that, you simply operating
+0
/
-0
under (b). There is no limit! 11/30/2024 10:10:26 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Groundhog Day again 12/1/2024 10:06:23 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Woo Hoo 11/30/2024 8:03:45 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Hmmmm..... 11/30/2024 8:10:32 AM
yeah, like the enforcement division is full of cases where they (NT)
+0
/
-0
violated pt 91 pilot's for this. lol! 11/30/2024 8:31:42 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
NOPE 11/30/2024 8:19:17 AM
Show us with a link or screenshot. (NT)
+0
/
-0
Anonymous 11/30/2024 8:28:19 AM
Well, went there and guess what....
+0
/
-0
Doesn't there is a 14 hr duty limit! 11/30/2024 9:33:49 AM
Well, went there and guess what....
+0
/
-0
like I said 11/30/2024 9:59:53 AM
and, yet, I prove you wrong everytime! (NT)
+1
/
-0
No DUTY DAY limit! 11/30/2024 10:00:38 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
This BS is why I quit, 11/30/2024 10:15:02 AM
Did you not know that it's been this way since before you (NT)
+0
/
-0
got a pilot's license? 11/30/2024 10:30:57 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Only If... 11/30/2024 10:50:46 AM
Yes! Paragraph's (b) and (d) are paired to each other.
+0
/
-0
And, ... 11/30/2024 11:19:16 AM
Also, it's the Certificate holder who chooses which paragraph to follow,
+0
/
-0
not the pilot! The pilot's job is 11/30/2024 11:23:09 AM
Also, it's the Certificate holder who chooses which paragraph to follow,
+0
/
-0
Exactly... 11/30/2024 3:15:13 PM
Also, it's the Certificate holder who chooses which paragraph to follow,
+0
/
-0
Ok 11/30/2024 4:33:46 PM
Do you ever go from day "shifts" to night "shifts"?
+0
/
-0
What sector do you work in? 12/2/2024 6:23:31 PM
HAA, with a fixed-shcedule for over a month??
+0
/
-0
What? Just day shifts? Just night? 12/2/2024 6:40:29 PM
Not to mention workover shifts at some other base with a different start/
+0
/
-0
finish duty time. 12/2/2024 6:43:28 PM
Also, it's the Certificate holder who chooses which paragraph to follow,
+0
/
-0
Ok 11/30/2024 4:36:28 PM
Also, it's the Certificate holder who chooses which paragraph to follow,
+0
/
-0
Which 12/3/2024 8:24:50 AM
No, it defines a 10 hr rest requirement, not a duty limit (NT)
+0
/
-0
Anonymous 12/4/2024 12:12:45 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Unless your GOM specifies 14hr limit 12/1/2024 10:19:18 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
so if 12/1/2024 10:37:02 PM
Does your GOM reference which paragraph it operates under? (NT)
+0
/
-0
(b) or (c)? Mine does. It's (b) 12/1/2024 10:57:47 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+1
/
-0
say wut 12/2/2024 6:50:34 AM
FAA doesn't care how long your duty day is, they care (NT)
+0
/
-2
about your REST in a 24 hr lookback 12/2/2024 9:01:45 AM
FAA doesn't care how long your duty day is, they care
+0
/
-0
really 12/2/2024 10:05:21 AM
Well, you can't learn everything in one day (NT)
+0
/
-0
Anonymous 12/2/2024 11:14:50 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!! (NT)
+0
/
-0
lol yep 12/2/2024 10:12:22 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
135.267 12/2/2024 10:45:20 AM
That is not a "limit"! That does not limit your duty day!
+1
/
-0
Just tells you what paragraph... 12/2/2024 11:01:03 AM
That is not a ....
+1
/
-0
Anonymous 12/2/2024 11:12:52 AM
That is not a ....
+0
/
-0
Interesting how you skipped over 12/2/2024 11:14:01 AM
Not a limitation. That's a qualifier for using (c). If you don't qualify (NT)
+1
/
-0
then you are operating under (b) 12/2/2024 11:15:54 AM
Not a limitation. That's a qualifier for using (c). If you don't qualify
+0
/
-1
and if I'm operating undre (b) 12/2/2024 11:17:27 AM
No.... You can't operate a Part 135 flight as PIC if your duty is >14 hrs,
+1
/
-1
but you can be on duty as long 12/2/2024 11:22:23 AM
It literally says "duty period no more than 14 hours" (NT)
+0
/
-0
Person who can read 12/2/2024 12:08:20 PM
If you are reading, read the whole thing!
+0
/
-0
Anonymous 12/2/2024 12:18:31 PM
Reading -and- comprehension!! (NT)
+0
/
-1
-- the importance of both! 12/2/2024 12:21:41 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Ground Hog Day again 12/2/2024 7:04:33 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Roy 12/2/2024 11:53:56 AM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+2
/
-0
You all 12/3/2024 8:23:02 AM
No it's not. It's a REST requirement, not a DUTY limitations (NT)
+0
/
-0
Anonymous 12/3/2024 11:14:12 AM
No it's not. It's a REST requirement, not a DUTY limitations
+2
/
-0
FAA Legal 12/3/2024 11:33:46 AM
Read it! Lots of times! It assumed operating under (c)
+0
/
-0
which you don't do not! 12/3/2024 3:06:39 PM
And, New (2013) also shows that there is no 14 hr duty limit, as things (NT)
+0
/
-0
just revert to (b) if you ain't (c) 12/3/2024 3:24:54 PM
And, New (2013) also shows that there is no 14 hr duty limit, as things
+3
/
-0
Ur 12/11/2024 3:14:48 PM
Read it! Lots of times! It assumed operating under (c) (NT)
+0
/
-0
OK 12/3/2024 5:25:40 PM
Read it! Lots of times! It assumed operating under (c)
+0
/
-0
OK 12/3/2024 5:32:46 PM
Are you always on day shifts for that year?
+0
/
-0
Or, always on night shifts? 12/3/2024 5:58:15 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+1
/
-0
Ahi 12/19/2024 12:23:12 PM
Attention: There Is No 14/hr Duty Day Limit!!
+0
/
-0
Well 1/1/2025 10:05:30 PM